Miracle mud

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Chatting to a guy in my local shop about things to consider for a marine tank, he mentioned this thing called Miracle Mud. He showed me a tank in the store that used it - just looked like a filtration and sump system to me.

Anyone know more about it, have any opinions on it etc?
 
I run a Mineral Mud system (Same as Miracle mud but a different brand name).

Basically its a natural filtration system that uses macro algeas to remove the nutrients from teh water and completing the nitrogen cycle. MM releases mineral to help the system and especially the algeas which will grow fast in the mud. The Algeas actually do the removal of the nutrients and not the MM. I also have mangoves growing in the sump as these are also good for nutrient extraction.

Here is an old piccy of part of my sump. Here you can see a layer of aragonite sand over the MM and on this i have several different types of macro algea (Many recomend Caulerpa as it grows fast but i dont use it due to its instability).

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Here is a recent piccy of the tank thats being run on the MM system. (I have the mangroves growing in the main tank at the moment but will change them to the sump soon)

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And a closer shot of the left side

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As you will see in my signature, my mainsystem uses no manufatured filtration systems etc... Its totally natural (even the water is sea water). No protien skimmers, I do run an external filter but it only has sponges and no other form of filtration. Its mainly used as extra filtration and a sort of refugium for pods and seasquirts. I also have a UV but its not running. I only turn it on if there is a parasite outbreak (which in this tank only happened once when the tank was only 2 weeks old)

For people that want a simple but effective way to filter the tank then I fully recomend the Eco MM system.

hope this helps.
 
Thanks for the kind comments everyone :)

The tank is far from finished yet, lots more live rock is needed as its doesnt cover the pipe inlets for the reefrack under the rock :*)

Its very simple to maintain, i added RO water everyday, rughly 8 litres evaporation per day (alot i know but i have 400w halide over the water and alot of powerheads creating extra heat :crazy: ). I have a few cerith and IO snails in the sump and these help mix teh MM into the aragonite and give an even mixture to the tank. The sump is teaming with pods , bristelworms and all other forms of reef life l(like tiny brittle stars etc). I do have a stray crab in the tank that i havent identified. It will remain there until i can give a positive ID on how safe it is.

The Macro algea and mangroves are really doing a great job at keeping nutrient levels at a very low level. This is helping my Acros to colour up and take hold far faster than i anticipated. :hyper:

Lastly, I havent changed the water ( added any fresh salt water) since May this year. As i use natural sea water and live near a popular holiday coastline i found it difficult to collect the water I use. Therefore the tank has been runnin as you see it since May. Water perameters are still excellant :D Now the holiday season is over I intend to start collecting water again as this will help my Acro frags with the natural plankton in the water.

Hope this helps answer a few questions, feel free to ask more if you wish any more help.

Basically if anyone wants a system thats simple to setup and maintain then MM is an extremely solid way to go.
 
Thanks for the info..Think I'll have more questions for you in the future.

Meanwhile can I see a photo of your 40gallon reef? We're aiming for a 50-odd gallon tank (about 4 feet long), so I'd be interested to see what yours looks like. Thanks!
 
Sure, here is the 40 gallon (Vision 180).

These are older photos now because i recently closed this tank down as i am thinking about a new project for this tank.

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Here are few piccys of some of the fish/coral i have at the moment.

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My favorite addition. My gorgeous Asfur Angel. :wub:
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My Banana Wrasse
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My clam
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My Clowns
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My Maroon clown hosting in a Sarcophyton :p

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Coral Beauty
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Part of my former 40 gallon setup
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My dearest flame angel :wub:
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My 40 gallon at night. (moonlights)
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Ming the Merciless, My Emperor Tang
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My Wattanabae Angels. Unfortunately the male died shotly after this photo :sad: They are prone to swim bladder problems and he was no exception :-(
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And lastly my Purple Masked Angel. (Venusta Angel)
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Sorry for so many piccys but i thought you might like to see how both systems are capable of holding a thriving community.
Hope these pics help with some ideas as to how you will do your tank.
 
They're fantastic, thanks. The 40g shot really helped - is that 40g UK or 40g US?

I'm looking at getting either a 48*18*20 60-odd gallon (UK) or slightly less wide 50 gallon UK, still learning before I buy (one of the marines we eventually want are seahorses, so plenty of research to do).

You've done a great job with your tanks!
 
Hi Def,

I'm currently setting a new 50 gallon reef tank and am going to use the Eco-MM-system.
From what i've heard and seen it certainly works.
Navarres pics are proof of this.
Also no skimmer or UV are required which is a bonus.
Definately worth a try.
Good luck.
 
Def: All my tanks are in UK gallons so the 40 gallon is actually a Vision 180 ltr (40 gallon UK)

Hyrookin: Thanks, they seem to be very happy :D That isnt to say i havent had problems. Not with the tank as much but i have had losses. My beloved Blue throat trigger jumped out of hte tank last week and died. I was devastated as this fish was such a character. Today i lost a cleaner shrimp due to it being sucked into the powerhead overnight :sad: And i lost my male Wattanabae a few months back due to a swim bladder problem. All these things have made me realise that nothing can be taken for granted in reef keeping. Thankfully i havent lost a fish to any problems within the tank like instabilites etc. :)

Andrew: Thanks again for the supportive words, all i can say is tha tht etank has bee nfar easier to manage than i ever thought possible. I have been waiting for a sudden spk,e or some other unforseen problem occure but at the moment its running well. I do have a UV but its not switched on. I would still recomend one as I always like to have a backup just in case. :p

If you have a sump then i whole heartedly recomend a setup such as this.
 
Andrew, any chance you could keep a simple diary of what you did, what you bought (how much) and when you did it?

I'd be really interested to follow your progress as it sounds like I'll be going down the exact same route as you in a few months.
 
Will do mate,

In process of building stand & running pipe work at the moment.
Tank should be in situ hopefully in about 3 weeks will let you know how things progress.
Good luck with your set up.
 
nararre,
how come you had a trigger in a reef tank? :crazy: thought they were a def no-no, wolud love a clown trigger myself, they do have loads of character!!, and are those pics of the clowns doctored at all, if not they are amazing colours!!!! :D :wub:
 
Hi Leon,

Not all triggers are unsafe for reefs. I had 2 of them, a Male Blue throat (was my pride and joy) and a Niger trigger.
I got rid of the Niger as I felt it would outgrow the tank eventually. I didnt want a tank full of triggers as i wanted to add other large fish as the main showpiece to the tank so it was rehoused.

The Bluethroat died recently due to jumping fromthe tank. :sad: I was (and still am ) devastated as this was my favorite fish. I had him from when he was very small and we had been through so much together, upgrading to larger tanks, whitespot outbreaks etc.. all of these he took with ease but the night he jumped out of the tank i was actually there in the room and couldnt find him. I turned the lights out and heard the splash, i turned tehm on again and searched high and low but no sign of him.. I decided he had landed back in the water and was hiding in the rockwork soi went to work. (I work nights) when i came home i found him though. He somehow managed to jumpe about 5 feet away from the tank and onto the sofa :eek: (which is very similar in colour) Needless to say he was dead :-( :sad: I was so upset because i know i could have saved him if i just looked a little harder and didnt underestimate his power in jumping.
Anyway... As for their temperment. The Blue throat is among the smaller triggers and is largely a planktonic feeder that feeds on drop offs of reefs etc. (not like the clowns and picassos that munch no lobsters and crabs :p ). Not as colourful as the other more aggressive triggers but they certainly have character. Mine actually shared its cave with my 3 blood shrimps!

As for the clown photos...
No they are not doctored :*) I have been asked a few times now (nearly each time i post a piccy of the clowns) if i have enhanced them at all. The answer is no, my camera is a Minolta Z1 and i do not use anything fancy to this either. Just stick the camer on auto and press the button! :p :D
Some ask me if the camera might be compensating the colour and not giving a true match but this also isnt true as they are truely this deep orange colour to the naked eye. I have a friend of mine who had never visited my tank (i got most of my acros from him) He has a pair of clowns and was forever boasting about how rich his colours were. I told him that mine were even richer and he didnt beleive me. He even drove 40 miles to visit me and see for himself. Well seeing is believing i guess :D

To be honest i waited a long time for clowns like this. I kept seeing such poor batches of clowns during the time of the Nemo film and they were being sold far to young and dieing off quickly (makes me mad when shops do this just to make a buck). My friends had 3 pairs and each died within a week or so of introduction to their tanks. I wanted a young pair but decided to wait as the tank wasnt ready at the time anyway. After weeks upon weeks of visitng my lfs each time they had a delivery, I finally found a batch of Clowns that had great colour and were very active! I waited afurther week to monitor them and see if any were dieing off unexpectedly and they didnt seem to be. I bought 2 pairs, 1 for me and 1 for my friends. Both pairs have done really well in our tanks. However my friends pair are not quite as rich in colour as mine (only ever so slightly.. they are still very bright fish). All i can explain for this colourisation is that i use different water and feed differently (more liekly the food to be honest).

I use natural sea water which might have something in it that feels a bit more natural to them but i doubt it. I also feed a large variety of food each day. The most important ingredient i feed them though is a food called Cyclopeeze. This is packed with nutrition and is a perfect food for keeping Anthias healthy. Its noted that it brings out the colours in anthias alot so this might also be true for Clowns.

Here is a piccy of my dearly missed Blue throat.

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And finally my Niger
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A word of warning about nigers though. Though they are considered "relatively" reef safe. These fish grow very large indeed! I have a 100 gallon (UK) setup and even this would have been pushing it a bit. The Blue throat however is very shy, very reef safe and only grows to about 5 or 6 inches. When purchasing a Blue throat make sure you get a male as the females are far less colourful. (they dont have the yellow fins or as much blue on the throat.

Hope this helps a little.
 

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