Long treatment of white spot....?

[njparton]

How long does it usually take to get rid of whitespot?

I first noticed it on one of my clown loaches a couple of weeks ago so I got some Intrepet Tratment number 6 (whitespot treatment plus) and I've been adding it to the tank at the prescribed intervals and doses, plus adding some with water changes (so it isn't diluted),

Problem now (2 weeks later) is that my other clown loach now has it and I've noticed some of my cardinals and red platies with it too...

Should I switch to a different remedy or persevere a bit longer?

 

[Angel Lady]

are you talking about ich if you are you need to raise your temp. to about 85 degrees if they keep on comming back then you are not killing the free swimmers I would keep on with what I you are treating with plus raise the temp. and see if that helps.

 

[njparton]

are you talking about ich if you are you need to raise your temp. to about 85 degrees if they keep on comming back then you are not killing the free swimmers I would keep on with what I you are treating with plus raise the temp. and see if that helps.

OK, I think that equates to about 26/7C ish.

 

[Angel Lady]

I see where you are from uk I dont know what you can buy out there where you are at I dont know much about the medicine you are using Can you buy any Jungle products if so get that for scaless fish and try that I always have had good luck with the ich let me know if that dont work I I will think of something else.

 

[Feline]

Hi! Protozin from Waterlife is a good med to get IMO (hav emailed waterlife to ask if i've to half the dosage, but they said no). N get the temp up to around 28C to speed up the parasite breeding cycle so makes the time shorter to kill the parasites of all life stages.

However this med will stain, so either u'll hav to put up with the water being green, or get them to a hospital tank. Salt can b an alternative to med treatments for ick, n it's said that scaleless fish can't tolerate the salt in it. So u can move the clown loaches to the hospital tank n treat with med, then treat the main tank with salt for other fishies. Usually I'll treat for 10-14 days.

 

[Angel Lady]

I am glad you told him what kind of medicine to get I dont know what kinds of medicine you guys can get. I have never heard of what he was using before. I hope they get rid of the parasites ok. I cant stand to see or hear of any kind of animal being sick I lost a little kitten today The vet tried everything she could do to save it. I picked it up on the road side someone set it off. I dont know if stuff like that happens where you live at, but here it is a daily thing I have 23 cats because someone sits them out beside the road and I come along and pick them up and take them home.

 

[njparton]

Thanks for that guys.

85F is way way over 30C infact!!

I've got my temp up to 28C but this of course reduces the dissolved 02 in the water - going up to 34C seems crazy!

I'll let you know my results. Having re-read the instructions on the Intrepet treatment I bought it does say a temp over 26C (which my tank was 2 weeks ago) but as the summer is coming to an end the temp dropped to 23C, which made the fish happier, but the parasite harder to kill I guess.

 

[Feline]

Fish Keeper, sori about the litttle kitten I'm just so angry on the people who do such things! These people will have a bad karma Anyway it's so nice of u to adopt so many felines

Njparton, hope the interpet treatment works ok with u.

 

[smb]

but as the summer is coming to an end the temp dropped to 23C, which made the fish happier, but the parasite harder to kill I guess.

It's not harder to kill, just takes longer. Raising the temp speeds up their life cycle.
The trophonts and the tomont cysts are unaffected by the medication and are killed when they become free swimming.

If you use carbon make sure you take it out while using medication.

It might take up to 10 days to rid your tank of ich depending on the temp of the tank. With your temp, 7 days sounds about right, imo.

 

[njparton]

but as the summer is coming to an end the temp dropped to 23C, which made the fish happier, but the parasite harder to kill I guess.

It's not harder to kill, just takes longer. Raising the temp speeds up their life cycle.
The trophonts and the tomont cysts are unaffected by the medication and are killed when they become free swimming.

If you use carbon make sure you take it out while using medication.

It might take up to 10 days to rid your tank of ich depending on the temp of the tank. With your temp, 7 days sounds about right, imo.

Maybe I should drop the temp again and just wait it out....

 

[ostrow]

Clown loaches are notoriously prone to ick. How long have you had yours? They can be quite intolerant to meds, even those purportedly safe for scaleless. I'm curious what the active ingredient in the one Interpet and Protozin meds might be.

For what it's worth, the ONLY thing that has saved a clown loach in my experience (I've lost 12, but now have 3 healthy) from ick is Aquarisol, dosed full strength for 14 days straight or until last white spot has disappeared plus 5 more days, whichever period is LONGER. I also now run a UV sterilizer, no ick in my tank since adding it in February (I'd had more or less continuous ick for 6 months before that).

 

[AquaNut]

I was JUST going to say... I haven't had an ich outbreak in years, but when I had it, the only thing that worked was Aquarisol. Don't know if you can get it in the UK, but it's good stuff, and safe for clown loaches.

 

[njparton]

Clown loaches are notoriously prone to ick. How long have you had yours? They can be quite intolerant to meds, even those purportedly safe for scaleless. I'm curious what the active ingredient in the one Interpet and Protozin meds might be.

For what it's worth, the ONLY thing that has saved a clown loach in my experience (I've lost 12, but now have 3 healthy) from ick is Aquarisol, dosed full strength for 14 days straight or until last white spot has disappeared plus 5 more days, whichever period is LONGER. I also now run a UV sterilizer, no ick in my tank since adding it in February (I'd had more or less continuous ick for 6 months before that).

I've never seen it for sale in the UK...

Jus down to the last few spots on my longest serving loach - the one that brought the infection from my LFS died a week ago - he was full of spots still.

I think the treatment is working, just not as fast as I'd hoped...

 

[Alien Anna]

I use the Interpet products and their Whitespot remedy is excellent, just FYI. You will need to keep going for a while to kill the parasite. If you can take the clown loaches out and treat in a hospital tank with no gravel, that will help because then you can treat the rest of the tank with the full-strength dose and kill the parasite in the gravel. With clown loaches I believe the dosage is lower but for a longer time.

Personally I wouldn't put the temperature up to 30 C - that's too high and will reduce the oxygen concentration for your fish. Howver, 28 C would be good.