Lemon Tetra

melh1979

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Hi - we have 8 lemon tetras and since yesterday one has been swimming oddly. It's swimming at an almost 45 degree angle with it's head up and has a large belly compared to the others. We asked at the fish shop but the man didn't know what it was - has anyone here got any idea what it could be? :unsure:
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Sounds like a swimbladder disorder- you should test your water quality for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates. What do you feed the fish and how much on average? How many gallons is the tank, how long has it been st up and what is its total stocking?
 
The tank is about 17-18 US gallons I think (70 litres). It's been set up just over a week - started with 5 lemon tetras and added 3 more today as the fish shop said it would be okay. There's no other fish in there Ammonia was 0.1 and nitrites 0.1 on Friday but haven't tested for Nitrates yet. We did about a 20% water change this morning. We feed the fish a very small pinch of flakes daily.
Noticed that the fish has a bit of a pinkish tinge on it's belly too. :/
 
The tank is about 17-18 US gallons I think (70 litres). It's been set up just over a week - started with 5 lemon tetras and added 3 more today as the fish shop said it would be okay. There's no other fish in there Ammonia was 0.1 and nitrites 0.1 on Friday but haven't tested for Nitrates yet. We did about a 20% water change this morning. We feed the fish a very small pinch of flakes daily.
Noticed that the fish has a bit of a pinkish tinge on it's belly too. :/


70 litres = 18.49 US gallons :) .

The tank is cycling currently, see this article for more info on water chemistry in your tank and cycling explained;

http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=10099

You should do a small water change (20% is usually good) with dechlorinator/water conditioner every time you see ammonia or nitrites in the tank as both these stats are toxic to fish and can stress fish out, which can lead to desease in fish or various stress related disorders. You should not buy any more fish until your water quality has stabilised, as adding more right now will just make the water quality less stable.
The swimbladder in the fish could be physically damaged (which would make it basically incurable), but it could also be an internal bacterial related problem or a diet related issue.

My advice would be to treat the tank with an anti internal bacterial med (like Anti Internal Bacteria by Interpet) and cut down on feeding the fish flakes or other dried foods and instead feed them a frozen based diet of daphinia (you should be able to get frozen cubes of daphinia/water flea's from your local fish store/lfs). Daphinia will be readily accepted by your tetras and is a healthy food that is good for fishes digestion when not fed in the freezedried form, but rather fresh/frozen.
Feeding the fish cooked, de-shelled and chopped up pea's is also good for their digestion, although this may not be as readily accepted by the lemon tetras as the daphinia, it is important to get some veg in their diet every now and then to help prevent diet releated problems like dropsy, constipation and swimbladder disorders. Always avoid overfeeding your fish, they should consume all food within a couple of minutes (there should be no uneaten food left on the substrate, particularly after 5mins).
So yeah, good diet and anti internal bacterial meds and regular water changes to try and help make the fish more comfortable during the cycling process should cure your fish. Swimbladder disorders are difficult to treat, but they are not untreatable- at the least, it should prevent your other fish sharing the same fate as your ill tetra :thumbs: .
 
Thanks for the help - might be tricky getting to the lfs before Christmas but we will try!
So this isn't likely to be something the other fish can catch from the sick one but they could get it if the conditions are correct? As we've only had the fish a week is it something we have or haven't done do you think or was it something that started before we got it?
Is it okay to use the internal bacteria med while the tank is cycling - it won't kill off any bacteria in the tank at the same time?
 
Thanks for the help - might be tricky getting to the lfs before Christmas but we will try!
So this isn't likely to be something the other fish can catch from the sick one but they could get it if the conditions are correct? As we've only had the fish a week is it something we have or haven't done do you think or was it something that started before we got it?
Is it okay to use the internal bacteria med while the tank is cycling - it won't kill off any bacteria in the tank at the same time?

No, internal bacteria med by Interpet is totally safe to use on tanks and will no kill off your benneficial bacteria :) .
If the swimbladder is a diet related problem, other fish could get it as they will all be getting the same diet and feeding regime in the tank, and if its internal bacterial other fish could also catch it, if the swimbladder is physically damaged though then its unlikely the other fish will get it. Generally speaking though, swimbladder disorders tend not to be very infectious, and it is rare to get more than 2 fish affected at any time depending on the factors causing the disorder involved.
As long as you keep up with regular water changes with dechlorinator/water conditioner and regularly test the water for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates so you know what state your water quality is in and avoid buying any more fish until the tanks ecosystem/water quality has stabilised, then you should be fine. Cycling with fish though can takes many months before it is finished though, usually at between 3-6months.
The link to article on cycling and water chemistry contains a wealth of important and handy info- there are quite a few useful and important articles on fishkeeping info pinned at the top of the beginners section which will probably be of much use to you :good: .
 
Thanks for your help. All the other tetra look okay at the moment - definately enjoying there being a few more of them! Even the sick one is trying it's best to follow them as they swim about!
We shall go to the lfs tomorrow morning before Christmas celebrations begin and get some of the bacteria med and frozen daphnia. We'll have peas with tea so I'll see if they try any of it - they may just spit it out of course!
 
Thanks for your help. All the other tetra look okay at the moment - definately enjoying there being a few more of them! Even the sick one is trying it's best to follow them as they swim about!
We shall go to the lfs tomorrow morning before Christmas celebrations begin and get some of the bacteria med and frozen daphnia. We'll have peas with tea so I'll see if they try any of it - they may just spit it out of course!

Good luck with your lemon tetra's, hope everything turns out well :good: .
 

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