yup the fruit..freddyk said:You mean lemon the fruit? I wouldn't put anything organic that can rot and pollute the aquarium, whether it helps the ph or not.
thanx swampcat..swampcat said:You need to change your PH slowly. A change from 7.5 to 6.5 could be bad. Discus are extremely sensitive. Carbon will remove coloration from drift wood but will not have an effect on your PH. The solution to your problem is PEAT MOSS in the filter. This will create the atmosphere for discus and lower your PH. Peat moss is sold as a filter media, look in your fish store. They also sell Blackwater additives that will be benificial for your discus, ask your fishstore for these. Put your lemon in your tea!
the discus fish..Iron Man said:Same here....what fish is so very delicate that it won't live happily in neutral water?
im not sure about this, but wouldnt it be the other way around? if you add acid to water with high ph, the water will have more effect than with water with acidic water. it takes more acid to change low ph water than it takes to change high ph water. i might be wrong, i just got this from my maths bookfreddyk said:Don't expect any miricles from peat moss. It is much more effective on water that is already more acid. The higher the ph, the less it will work. I doubt it's worth the money.
I can't think of any fish that won't work in your water as it is.
It's because higher ph water has a higher mineral content. Adding these items doesn't decrease this content, it merely tries to push it the other way by adding acidic elements to the water. The higher the mineral content, the more difficult it gets to overcome it. This is the reason why RO water is the only reliable way of lowering it - it actually filters out the minerals.im not sure about this, but wouldnt it be the other way around? if you add acid to water with high ph, the water will have more effect than with water with acidic water
I aggree with freddyk, i know people that have no problem keeping there discus at PH 7.6, this is only a problem when breeding.freddyk said:Discus will also be fine in this water, believe it or not, though alkaline water will affect the hatching of their eggs. Discus are delicate concerning the cleanliness of water, not the ph.
(note: the higher the ph, the more toxic ammonia and nitrite become, so in this respect it could affect the discus, though both these levels must always be 0 anyway)
thanx man..simonbrown403 said:I aggree with freddyk, i know people that have no problem keeping there discus at PH 7.6, this is only a problem when breeding.freddyk said:Discus will also be fine in this water, believe it or not, though alkaline water will affect the hatching of their eggs. Discus are delicate concerning the cleanliness of water, not the ph.
(note: the higher the ph, the more toxic ammonia and nitrite become, so in this respect it could affect the discus, though both these levels must always be 0 anyway)
The main conserne is keeping a stable PH.
If you have to lower your PH, and cant use an RO unit try a peat bomb, or deionised water.
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