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Large Aquarium Design. Help Tips Etc Req.
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MoondustBob
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I prefer the original concepts too.. this two tier tank doesn't do it for me when the large tank is a paladarium. The idea of a river design imo should be to allow the fish to swim up and down freely, but fish can't get from the bottom tank to the top. Could you not fill the large tank section completely? That might work. The curve design is cool also. Are you getting this made here, or out there? Doing it there would probably be easier as they can seamlessly heat weld the perspex together on site.
Arachnidzone
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andywatson29 and MoondustBob, I was at work yesterday and didnt have all my 3D projects, I am off now and at home. I wanted to go back to the original round-pool-river idea but put it into a cabinet. I will try that next! Thanks for the comments!
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MermaidMel - Borneo is the third largest island in the word, the northern 3rd is East Malaysia, the rest is Indonesia and a little triangle at the top is Brunei. Borneo has what i think is the second most unexplored and important rainforest in the world, second to the Amazon. There are loggers chopping it down as we speak even though several new species are found there every year. Just a month or so ago the worlds smallest fish species was found there. Here are a couple of photos of the area where we will be building...
The main road from Bario (the main town near us) to Pa' Umor (The small village we will be just outside.)
One of many vies in Bario, this one is paddy fields, homes and the rainforest in the background.
This is actually our plot. I will take much wider shots and a panoramic of this where i can edit in the latest render of our 3D house design when we get back ffom our july trip.
Theres much more to East Malaysian Borneo. Some people think its all rainforest but actually there are at least 2 really good cities with 5* hotels, loads of locals v.cheap shops and loads of shopping malls which are still cheap. Hundreds of places to eat all kinds of asian and international food. Amazing world class tattooists (type hardcore borneo tattoo into youtube for a video i took!) traditional had tapped tats or regular 'gun' tats. Orangutan sanctuaries, nature parks, crocodile farms, museums, diving, coral reefs, loads. Then you go back to mainlans Malaysia for even more as Kuala Lumpur (The Capital) is there.
Hope that helps!
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MermaidMel - Borneo is the third largest island in the word, the northern 3rd is East Malaysia, the rest is Indonesia and a little triangle at the top is Brunei. Borneo has what i think is the second most unexplored and important rainforest in the world, second to the Amazon. There are loggers chopping it down as we speak even though several new species are found there every year. Just a month or so ago the worlds smallest fish species was found there. Here are a couple of photos of the area where we will be building...
The main road from Bario (the main town near us) to Pa' Umor (The small village we will be just outside.)
One of many vies in Bario, this one is paddy fields, homes and the rainforest in the background.
This is actually our plot. I will take much wider shots and a panoramic of this where i can edit in the latest render of our 3D house design when we get back ffom our july trip.
Theres much more to East Malaysian Borneo. Some people think its all rainforest but actually there are at least 2 really good cities with 5* hotels, loads of locals v.cheap shops and loads of shopping malls which are still cheap. Hundreds of places to eat all kinds of asian and international food. Amazing world class tattooists (type hardcore borneo tattoo into youtube for a video i took!) traditional had tapped tats or regular 'gun' tats. Orangutan sanctuaries, nature parks, crocodile farms, museums, diving, coral reefs, loads. Then you go back to mainlans Malaysia for even more as Kuala Lumpur (The Capital) is there.
Hope that helps!
Dave Spencer
Gort! Klaatu barada nikto.
If it was up to me, I would keep the tank itself simple and minimalist. Remember, it is the contents of the tank that is the star. Learn from the master himself and don`t let the structure of the tank become a distraction.
dave.
dave.
Arachnidzone
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Dave Spencer, thats some impressive layout! Thanks! Definitely does inspire. I personally want to frame this for 2 main reasons.
1. Its for a guest house so needs to look as tidy as possible and preferably no access by guests.
2. Like my snake enclosures here, a neat, dark frames/boxed in enclosure looks amazing at night. All you can see is the tank itself.
But i do like the idea of a large, well-decorated aquarium. Remember though, i have size limitations and a large area to fill, so what do you think to 2 tanks 58x10x34 (interior with 20mm acrylic.) Maybe with 2 small 12"cubes in the middle. Thats about 75g per tank (UK) A nice thin, tall, panoramic tank. No curves etc to distort view and raise price.
I do still like the paladariums and rivers but want to explore all options.
What does everyone else think to a more simple idea?
1. Its for a guest house so needs to look as tidy as possible and preferably no access by guests.
2. Like my snake enclosures here, a neat, dark frames/boxed in enclosure looks amazing at night. All you can see is the tank itself.
But i do like the idea of a large, well-decorated aquarium. Remember though, i have size limitations and a large area to fill, so what do you think to 2 tanks 58x10x34 (interior with 20mm acrylic.) Maybe with 2 small 12"cubes in the middle. Thats about 75g per tank (UK) A nice thin, tall, panoramic tank. No curves etc to distort view and raise price.
I do still like the paladariums and rivers but want to explore all options.
What does everyone else think to a more simple idea?
Arachnidzone
Fish Fanatic
Right, inspired by simplicity, practicality, cost-effectiveness, minimalism. I have come up with these. All fitted into the wall so just windows into a watery world...
This one is 2x 58"x12"x34" and 2 12"cubes
This is 4 20" cubes which would make for 4 decent volume 28g tanks.
28"x5ftx12" so 2x 72g tanks. Tall and thin but still a nice wide angle.
This one is 2x 58"x12"x34" and 2 12"cubes
This is 4 20" cubes which would make for 4 decent volume 28g tanks.
28"x5ftx12" so 2x 72g tanks. Tall and thin but still a nice wide angle.
ALW
What works for one may not work for another!
Right, inspired by simplicity, practicality, cost-effectiveness, minimalism. I have come up with these. All fitted into the wall so just windows into a watery world...
This one is 2x 58"x12"x34" and 2 12"cubes
I like this idea
Arachnidzone
Fish Fanatic
I like this idea
Yea, i think because of all the various needs, limitations etc it will end up being a simplistic modern wall like this, a 16"clyinder 32" high on the end of a curved kitchen unit for Annes (My wife) goldfish which will be imported from Singapore which is pretty near. And possibly a tropical pond in the floor too with plants and a glass windaow front.
The pond depends on what we think of the safety aspect. We are on the ground floor and the bedrock is only about 12" below the surface so can dig down to that and build the outer wall for the pond from there up, So could be 2" deep and 8ft diameter easy. Will think about it!
OH, and just to say i like the idea of very thin tanks in terms of width as the water will look very clear. Tanks 18"+ wide can look very mirky very easily. I may opt for much shorter tanks though due to the light penetration/depth thing. Like i have said, low wattage so need to optomise everything for light penetration, easy filtration, things like that.
Currently thinking of this design...
The rear, you can see the top and the wondows cut into it to allow acces but keep regidity. Each tank would be made from 3x 52" sections sealed together on site to make 2x 13foot aquariums
MoondustBob
Fish Fanatic
When is all this happening?
Design seems to be changing rapidly. Thing that struck me with some of them is the sheer weight, and that on a wooden floor?
External filters do not use much power, they only need pump a very small head, not like open sump type pumps.
Lighting those deeper designs is going to be very difficult and use a lot of power. High power LEDs waste a lot of energy as heat, if you are thinking about them, you should use a current controlled power source as the additional load of current limiting resistors on the LED's will waste even more power. Fluorescents with modern electronic starters are more efficient. At depth for good plant growth you will probably want halides.
External filters do not use much power, they only need pump a very small head, not like open sump type pumps.
Lighting those deeper designs is going to be very difficult and use a lot of power. High power LEDs waste a lot of energy as heat, if you are thinking about them, you should use a current controlled power source as the additional load of current limiting resistors on the LED's will waste even more power. Fluorescents with modern electronic starters are more efficient. At depth for good plant growth you will probably want halides.
If bed rock is only a foot down it would be very easy to dig down to the bed rock and build a frame up from there to support the weight of the tanks and surround. as this is going to be a built in tank ( I`m assuming) not a moveable item. and as the house hasn`t been built yet, it will be very easy to put any size tank you want in there.....
Arachnidzone, have sent you an e-mail with regards to possibily coming out to help with the house....
i dont suppose you have need of someone who works with steel and has experience with concrete do you? i was literally just telling lynz(another tff member) that im sick of the UK and would leave in a heart beat if the opportunity presented its self! 3 months in borneo might be just the trick.
while im typing as well, i would simply go for the usual rectangle design use the flora and fauna as the draw not the tank its self, as said earlier the tank may be a distraction from the fish.
while im typing as well, i would simply go for the usual rectangle design use the flora and fauna as the draw not the tank its self, as said earlier the tank may be a distraction from the fish.
Yes, and it says that where?
I like this idea
Yea, i think because of all the various needs, limitations etc it will end up being a simplistic modern wall like this, a 16"clyinder 32" high on the end of a curved kitchen unit for Annes (My wife) goldfish which will be imported from Singapore which is pretty near. And possibly a tropical pond in the floor too with plants and a glass windaow front.
The pond depends on what we think of the safety aspect. We are on the ground floor and the bedrock is only about 12" below the surface so can dig down to that and build the outer wall for the pond from there up, So could be 2" deep and 8ft diameter easy. Will think about it!
OH, and just to say i like the idea of very thin tanks in terms of width as the water will look very clear. Tanks 18"+ wide can look very mirky very easily. I may opt for much shorter tanks though due to the light penetration/depth thing. Like i have said, low wattage so need to optomise everything for light penetration, easy filtration, things like that.
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