Keep getting told different stuff

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I have a 30 gal, 20 gal, and 180 gal tank. I keep getting told whats the most i can put in the tank and its getting a little annoying cause i thought i had it figured out right but what im being told by lfs is different and i dont know if the person just has no clue what there talking about cause for my 30 gal tank. I got a 1 Opaline Gourami, 1 Red Dwarf Gourami, 1 3 spot gourami, 1 Figure-8, 1 Plecostomus, Clown Loach, and  Elephant Nose. I was told that it was to much for the tank, i was also told that i shouldnt count the clown loach and plecostomus. I'm not sure no more what the max is for the tank cause i dont want to over due it and im just getting confused. So if some1 could tell me what my max would be would be a lot of help.
 
umm, theyre brackish, the rest of your fish are fw.

also, clown loaches do best in groups of three or more, and they really get a bit big for 30 gal (8 inches or more).

otherwise, i'd say the three gouramis, the pleco and elephant nose are fine (full grown the regular will be 4 inches, but the dwarf will only reach 2 inches)(though i have no idea how big the en gets....). keep in mind your plec may get too big for the tank too, depending on what kind it is.
 
What do you mean by 'shouldn't count the clown loach and the plec'?

These are going to be the biggest gish in your tank IMO, also clown loaches should in in pairs in a small tank or groups of 3+ in a bigger (IMO). What kind is your plec? I am not sure that puffers make good community fish either.

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OK, the reason you keep getting different answers is because there is no answer.

That's right. People will answer the question 'how many' to try to make things easier for you, sometimes they'll give you rules of thumb, other times they'll look at your fish stocking list and make a judgment off of that, which is certainly more reliable then any rule of thumb.

If you want to figure out how many fish you can stock in your tank, here is what you can do.

First make sure all of your fish are compatible, or the whole thing is pointless anyway.

Next, measure your nitrates just before doing every water change. Note it down. What is happening with them? If they are gradually lowering or are staying even then your stocking levels are fine. If they are steadily rising each time then you have too many fish and your aquarium maintenance routine will not keep up.

This is a basic way of determining stocking levels based on water quality. Keep in mind that nitrates will rise quicker as young fish grow larger and as debris builds up in unreachable areas of the tank.

The amount of physical room is something that you must judge for yourself based on how busy the tank is, how much decoration you have, and what kind of fish you have. Water quality is a bigger issue.

Other notes:
Physical debris - if you find you can't keep up and the aquarium is steadly getting dirtier, lighten the fish load.
Algae - If you have excessive algae problems, overstocking and overfeeding are the two most common sources.
Ammonia/Nitrite - if you find that you are always detecting a presence of these elements in the water even though the tank is cycled then your filtration probably can't keep up with your fish load.
 
See everything between all of them are fine and by what i meant not count is not count them by the fish per gallon. Also puffers are usualy not community fish i have 3 other puffers that where to agressive for the 30 gal tank. The puffer that is in there now dont bother any of them does not nip them unless is i guess you could say challage i had a gold Gourami in the tank and it was nippin and tryin to knock him around so the puffer turned around and nip his fin but other wise long as none of them try to be mean to it. He is fine. Also i know there usualy are brackish but hes been in freshwater since we got him and he has been doing fine in the freshwater. Also clown loachs it says usualy do best in groups but it also if u dont have groups of them they will school with fish of the same age and size. Also the Elephant Nose will be 9 inches when it is full grown
 
The F8 will not be fine in FW when he gets older even if you put him in there and keep him in there and the "feeler" fins on gouramis are often the first to go.

Opcn
 
Figure-8 said:
See everything between all of them are fine and by what i meant not count is not count them by the fish per gallon. Also puffers are usualy not community fish i have 3 other puffers that where to agressive for the 30 gal tank. The puffer that is in there now dont bother any of them does not nip them unless is i guess you could say challage i had a gold Gourami in the tank and it was nippin and tryin to knock him around so the puffer turned around and nip his fin but other wise long as none of them try to be mean to it. He is fine. Also i know there usualy are brackish but hes been in freshwater since we got him and he has been doing fine in the freshwater. Also clown loachs it says usualy do best in groups but it also if u dont have groups of them they will school with fish of the same age and size. Also the Elephant Nose will be 9 inches when it is full grown
From what I can understand from that post (punctuation make what you say clearer) you don't want to listen to what people say. Why ask questions if you will not accept the answer?

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the puffer may be okay now, but he will not last. and as said, he will become a nipper. but hey, if you don't want to listen to advice, thats your choice, your fish.
 
Even if he is older now and that means what he will end up dieing.... Cause i cant make the tank brackish with my other fish that are in there atleast i dont think you can do that.
 
Figure-8 said:
Even if he is older now and that means what he will end up dieing.... Cause i cant make the tank brackish with my other fish that are in there atleast i dont think you can do that.
Why not take it back? What about the clown loach and the plec (depending on type) that IMO will outgrow your tank? Not to metion that he loach should have company.

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no, you cannot make it brackish, you have fw fish in there. take the puffer back or get him his own tank and make that bw. he really should be in a species tank anyway.
 
I dont think i can ive had it for like 3 months now. I know one place that might uy it but m not sure if they will or not.
 
call around, see if any will just take it off your hands or maybe give you store credit. places like the chain stores (ie petsmart/petco) don't usuallly take in fish, they can't really, but the small privately owned shops will often take infish. especially popular ones like figure 8 puffers.
 

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