Just when you were getting accustomed to Hoplisoma instead of Corydoras...

[Innesfan]

This from Aquarium Glaser. This is reminiscent of the taxonomic rumpus that occurred a few years back when three Symphysodon (Discus) revisions, each disagreeing with substantial parts of the other, were published bang, bang, bang. Here's Glaser:

"As was to be expected and predicted by us, the break-up of the large new genera Brochis and Hoplisoma has already begun. Most recently (November 26, 2024), the new armored catfish genus Urkumayu was established for U. gladysae, U. micracanthus and U. petracinii (Alonso et al.). None of the three species play a role in the hobby. At the same time, a new species of armored catfish from the immediate relationship of the oldest of all aquarium armored catfish, the marbled armored catfish Hoplisoma paleatus, was newly described: Hoplisoma osvaldoi. The authors of the study write the genus name Hoplisoma for the paleatus group in quotation marks and make clear that these armored catfish do not belong to Hoplisoma. In the molecular biological analysis that they include in their paper, the three emerald armored catfishes again form a phylogenetic unit. However, as Alonso et al. focused their study on armored catfishes from the southern part of South America, they have refrained from formally establishing a new genus for the paleatus group, but it is only a matter of time before this happens."

 

[TwoTankAmin]

@Innesfan
And this is another reason my dislike of Latin rears its ugly head. You seem to be in my age group. Did you have to do this? I had to study Latin in grade school in the late 1950s early 60s. I hated it.

When it comes to Latin names, Te audire non possum est. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.

I actually got my L173b plecos years back from Glaser. I did not buy them directly, I got them from somebody who did.

 

[fishorama]

LOL, 2tank! I had to look that up. In some ways I wish I did know some Latin & maybe some Greek for fish, plant & medical terms. Thank goodness for translation apps

I will try to learn new names when they've been agreed upon for several years for fish I keep.

 

[Innesfan]

Sounds like you went to private (Catholic?) school where Latin was required. I did take Latin but in public school so I elected to take it. I actually liked it and enjoyed seeing how much of our language is rooted in Latin. And it really did help in the vocabulary portion of the SATs. I continued to take it in college.

@Innesfan
And this is another reason my dislike of Latin rears its ugly head. You seem to be in my age group. Did you have to do this? I had to study Latin in grade school in the late 1950s early 60s. I hated it.

When it comes to Latin names, Te audire non possum est. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.

Ha! For our non-Latin-conversant friends, the above translates, "I cannot hear you. There's a banana stuck in my ear."

Meanwhile, I'm quite sure Urkumayu, the new genus, is neither Latin nor Greek.

 

[GaryE]

I didn't learn any Latin in school, and my little knowledge of the dead language comes from studying fish and Roman history. I truly don't understand the mindset people have against using it.
It seems to be a very American thing - I've never heard it from a European.
It's a vast world with so many languages, and I always feel like a dolt when I meet people who speak 4 or 5 or 10 languages fluently when I only have two. And I don't need to learn Latin, I just use it for the names of fish. English is inadequate for that. In my mind, Aphyosemion is the correct English word for a type of killifish, and if the science looks good, Urkumayu will be the name for an obscure group of ex Corys, if I ever have to talk about them.
Latin's no one's language. It allows communication for naming things across all languages, and we all have to work at it equally whether we speak a power language or a local one. I like the fairness of that. If I look for a paper on a fish and use Latin, I may find a paper in Mandarin and have to translate the info, but I can find it. Type in 'purple spotted eye biter' and you'll get commercial lists selling the fish (if it were a real one...).