Just Popping Dowm From African Section (need Advice)

[adambrum]

Im seeking the advice of sump design for a 8x2x2 tank as this is a bit large for a fw tank filtering is a bit of a problem as i dont want several canister filters so i have decided for a sump, Im thinking about 3000-4000 lph from 2 pumps feed by 2 overflows and fed back with 2 pipes to height of 5ft, now the questions

1. what size inlet pipes.
2. what size outlet pipes.
3. any ideas as to where i can get designs from.


Thanks in advance.

 

[l337dave]

Im seeking the advice of sump design for a 8x2x2 tank as this is a bit large for a fw tank filtering is a bit of a problem as i dont want several canister filters so i have decided for a sump, Im thinking about 3000-4000 lph from 2 pumps feed by 2 overflows and fed back with 2 pipes to height of 5ft, now the questions

1. what size inlet pipes.
2. what size outlet pipes.
3. any ideas as to where i can get designs from.


Thanks in advance.

@3 melvs is always good for sumpy things! link

can't help with the others 'cause I'm still planning mine


dave.

 

[SkiFletch]

1. Depends on the pump (usually bigger than the outlet though and probably 1.5"+)
2. Depends on the pump
3. melvsreef.com is a great resource for sump design and knowledge.

You're talking BIG sump, so let me ask a couple questions.

US or UK resident?
How big will the sump be?
Can you drill or find someone capable of drilling?
How much does gurgling noises bother you?
Do you want 3000-4000lph total or two 3000-4000lph pumps (6000-8000lph total)?
Do you want that actual gph going into the tank AFTER all pressure loss?
Do you prefer to work with lph and meters of head or gph and feet of head?

 

[l337dave]

1. Depends on the pump (usually bigger than the outlet though and probably 1.5"+)
2. Depends on the pump
3. melvsreef.com is a great resource for sump design and knowledge.

You're talking BIG sump, so let me ask a couple questions.

US or UK resident?
How big will the sump be?
Can you drill or find someone capable of drilling?
How much does gurgling noises bother you?
Do you want 3000-4000lph total or two 3000-4000lph pumps (6000-8000lph total)?
Do you want that actual gph going into the tank AFTER all pressure loss?
Do you prefer to work with lph and meters of head or gph and feet of head?

hey did you manage to get any further with this..? I've found the 'Calculators' at reefcentral (halfway down the right hand side) to be a great help in getting started on planning mine!

 

[crazyelece]

Ok, I'm going to chime in here because I have actually looked into setting up a large freshwater system for stingrays. Most of the sump ideas for saltwater are not what you need. They are designed around filtration ideas for marine setups that aren't going to be efficient for fresh water applications. For instance they leave a space large enough to place a skimmer in, which won't work to well in a fresh water setup.

Anyway when I was looking into it here was the best filtration method I found. First go through a trickle filter (or wet/dry filter) Something similar to the ProClear capable of handling your size tank. This will take care of all your biological fitration needs. After that plumb the trickle filter into a reugium setup with easy low light plants. I planned on using water lettace or water hyacinth on mine. Then pump it back up into the tank. You don't need a ton of flow here as your not trying to mimic the turbulance of an ocean. I would think two 1" drains (or 1 1/2" duruso drains) and something like a mag 12 for a return would be fine.