Is This Overstocking?

[tiger~barbwire]

I have a 80 gallon tank and i would like to have in it

4 clown loaches-i know the get big but i suppose this is big enough for them isnt it?
2 bristlenose catfish
8 tiger barbs- 2 of them being albino
2-silver sharks
a chinese algae eater
and a black ghost knife.

I am having trouble figuring out if there will be too many fish in the tank. Could some one please tell me if im overstocking!!

I appreciate ur responses. Thanks!!

***Please note i have a proper good quality canister filter which is meant for a 110 gallon tank and very good aeration and water circulation by the use of power heads. Also i do a 20% water change every 2 weeks and i vacuum the gravel as well.

 

[JDonner]

4 clown loaches-i know the get big but i suppose this is big enough for them isnt it?
2-silver sharks

With those six you would already be overstocking your tank. These fish can grow pretty big!

 

[tiger~barbwire]

4 clown loaches-i know the get big but i suppose this is big enough for them isnt it?
2-silver sharks

With those six you would already be overstocking your tank. These fish can grow pretty big!

yeh but they grow according to the size of ur tank dont they?

 

[JDonner]

yeh but they grow according to the size of ur tank dont they?

They won't reach maxium size, but they will still grow pretty big. One of my tanks was a 10 gallon with several fish in it and it didn't stop a pleco from growing 6 inches... and that's a tank 8 times smaller than yours.

 

[tiger~barbwire]

yeh but they grow according to the size of ur tank dont they?

They won't reach maxium size, but they will still grow pretty big. One of my tanks was a 10 gallon with several fish in it and it didn't stop a pleco from growing 6 inches... and that's a tank 8 times smaller than yours.

DAMN IT!! will my fish be stressed?

 

[rdd1952]

yeh but they grow according to the size of ur tank dont they?

Actually, their growth gets stunted by the size of the tank. their bodys stop growing but their organs continue to grow killing the fish before it reaches it's full size and age.

Besides that, these fish are all big waste producers so a 20% WC every 2 weeks won't work. You will need to do that every week and possibly change a little more water. The key will be getting all the waste vacuumed from the bottom. And last but not least, I would forget the chinese algae eater. They don't eat algae, become aggressive as they get older (they probably won't get along with the sharks) and will try to suck the slime coat off slower moving such as the catfish or clown loaches. If you want an algae eater, get a Siamese algae eater.

 

[azzman]

Not 100% sure this is true but ive been told clown loaches take years
to reach full size.

 

[tiger~barbwire]

yeh but they grow according to the size of ur tank dont they?

Actually, their growth gets stunted by the size of the tank. their bodys stop growing but their organs continue to grow killing the fish before it reaches it's full size and age.

Besides that, these fish are all big waste producers so a 20% WC every 2 weeks won't work. You will need to do that every week and possibly change a little more water. The key will be getting all the waste vacuumed from the bottom. And last but not least, I would forget the chinese algae eater. They don't eat algae, become aggressive as they get older (they probably won't get along with the sharks) and will try to suck the slime coat off slower moving such as the catfish or clown loaches. If you want an algae eater, get a Siamese algae eater.

hmm very interesting ive noticed him chasing my shark. welll if i do a 25% water change every week including gravel vacuuming will the fish be alrite. I just dont want them to die. Not because of the money but because they are a living life form.

But ive also noticed pther peoples tanks being smaller than mine and having more fish, but dont peform the regular water maintenace process but there fish seem to be happy and the water doesnt seem to be bad quality. Is this just luck?

 

[JDonner]

But ive also noticed pther peoples tanks being smaller than mine and having more fish, but dont peform the regular water maintenace process but there fish seem to be happy and the water doesnt seem to be bad quality. Is this just luck?

Luck has very little to do with it. How many fish you can keep depends a lot on the fish, on the the filtering, cleaning, decorations, tank shape, etc. Also just looking at someone tank might give you the impression that the fish are happy, but it doesn't say tell you anything about how well they will do in the long term. Let's be honest, just look at what you said; you used twice the word "seem".

 

[tiger~barbwire]

But ive also noticed pther peoples tanks being smaller than mine and having more fish, but dont peform the regular water maintenace process but there fish seem to be happy and the water doesnt seem to be bad quality. Is this just luck?

Luck has very little to do with it. How many fish you can keep depends a lot on the fish, on the the filtering, cleaning, decorations, tank shape, etc. Also just looking at someone tank might give you the impression that the fish are happy, but it doesn't say tell you anything about how well they will do in the long term. Let's be honest, just look at what you said; you used twice the word "seem".

But ive also noticed pther peoples tanks being smaller than mine and having more fish, but dont peform the regular water maintenace process but there fish seem to be happy and the water doesnt seem to be bad quality. Is this just luck?

Luck has very little to do with it. How many fish you can keep depends a lot on the fish, on the the filtering, cleaning, decorations, tank shape, etc. Also just looking at someone tank might give you the impression that the fish are happy, but it doesn't say tell you anything about how well they will do in the long term. Let's be honest, just look at what you said; you used twice the word "seem".

okok well mines a rectangle, it has many hiding places which inclide driftwood, rock formations and a few small to medium size ornaments. It is well planted along the bak anf the sides of the aquarium leaving them with a large area to swim around. There is plenty of oxygen in there.

 

[rdd1952]

Not 100% sure this is true but ive been told clown loaches take years
to reach full size.

From what I have read about clowns, they reach 4 to 6 inches within the first year and then their growth slows.

 

[tiger~barbwire]

Not 100% sure this is true but ive been told clown loaches take years
to reach full size.

From what I have read about clowns, they reach 4 to 6 inches within the first year and then their growth slows.

kool thank you all i think ill get rid of the barbs and the algae eater thanx!

 

[LakeyGal]

Not 100% sure this is true but ive been told clown loaches take years
to reach full size.

there are reports of clowns living over 40 years....not sure of the growth rate tho

 

[tiger~barbwire]

Not 100% sure this is true but ive been told clown loaches take years
to reach full size.

there are reports of clowns living over 40 years....not sure of the growth rate tho

Yeh i've heard that tooo, but i also heard after they reach about 15cm their growth rate slooooooooows...but they still keep growing though

 

[Amunet]

Well since all of the good advice has already been said.. I'll add in what I've read about clowns too! heh

I've read that once they start getting bigger, they start becoming more aggressive (this probably doesn't happen until they're years old though).. and that when they breed, they become extremely aggressive eating everything for as much protein as possible.
Also read that it's extremely difficult to breed clowns in an aquarium b/c people think that they don't sexually mature until they are years old (can't remember how old was speculated).

Whether if any of this is accurate *shrugs* But I've read this info on some knowledgeable sites.