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I am able to get some plecos cheap. They are noted below. Can anyone give me some info on their behaviour - what is shy? What is bold? What will be ok in a planted discus tank? What is meat eater and what is a veggie?

CLown Plwc L15
Royal plec
peppermint plec l030
galaxia plec
 
:lol: Royal plecos are quite rare and expensive. grab it while you can. clowns tend to be territorial like most plecos to other similar sized and shaped fish. galaxia pleco and peppermint are very nice attractions. most plecos are sy but get to know their surrounding after a couple of months and come out more imo :good: all love their veg, e.g Zucchini :lol:
 
cool thanks. I know the clown is shy - i had one a couple years back which died because it never came out to eat!! Got one now which hides most of the time - just need to be lucky to see him! I have loads of bristlenose, and they are out all day! Do you know abut the above - if the other 3 only come out at night or what ever?

I read the royals grow to a huge size?
 
cool thanks. I know the clown is shy - i had one a couple years back which died because it never came out to eat!! Got one now which hides most of the time - just need to be lucky to see him! I have loads of bristlenose, and they are out all day! Do you know abut the above - if the other 3 only come out at night or what ever?

I read the royals grow to a huge size?
Yes. plecos will come out at night to feed of left over or any food. Royals can get to about 20" :lol: Worth every penny thou. :lol:
 
20"!!! My tank is 6 foot! What would i do with it when it gets that big?! haha
 
The rate my aquarium purchases are growing, by he time he is 20" i'll have a swimming pool as a fish tank
 
:lol: Royal plecos are quite rare and expensive. grab it while you can. clowns tend to be territorial like most plecos to other similar sized and shaped fish. galaxia pleco and peppermint are very nice attractions. most plecos are sy but get to know their surrounding after a couple of months and come out more imo :good: all love their veg, e.g Zucchini :lol:


Certain royals or 'panaques' are harder to obtain and rarer than others but the species the OP is probably able to get will be 190/191 which are very common and sell for very little nowadays. Although these with tollerate discus temps, it really is still a little on the warm side, the other factor would be diet.... discus as you know require a high protein based meat diet.... royals should be only fed it sparingly and as an occasional treat.... the main reason why i would say this isn't suitable for a discus setup. They also require wood within the tank and they make a huge amount of waste lol.

The L15 isn't a clown more often called candy stripe even though places still refer to them as clowns the species is different to what is traditionally know as a clown. L15 aren't overly aggressive but neither really are clowns (panaque maccus). This species wouldn't really be suitable for discus temps and there for wouldn't really be suitable long term

L30 is a lovely species, stays really small and would tollerate discus temps quite well... it should be fine with the food side of things but offering a varied diet is important as it is with all species of plec.

The galaxias, are we talking about L007?.... if so again we are struggling to keep it long term at discus temps, stunning fish that grows quite big, food again should be fine but varied veg matter should be offered just as much as meat alternative.

Really the only true suitable fish would be the L30.... theoretically all would work but they just wouldn't be in ideally conditions.
 
:lol: Royal plecos are quite rare and expensive. grab it while you can. clowns tend to be territorial like most plecos to other similar sized and shaped fish. galaxia pleco and peppermint are very nice attractions. most plecos are sy but get to know their surrounding after a couple of months and come out more imo :good: all love their veg, e.g Zucchini :lol:


Certain royals or 'panaques' are harder to obtain and rarer than others but the species the OP is probably able to get will be 190/191 which are very common and sell for very little nowadays. Although these with tollerate discus temps, it really is still a little on the warm side, the other factor would be diet.... discus as you know require a high protein based meat diet.... royals should be only fed it sparingly and as an occasional treat.... the main reason why i would say this isn't suitable for a discus setup. They also require wood within the tank and they make a huge amount of waste lol.

The L15 isn't a clown more often called candy stripe even though places still refer to them as clowns the species is different to what is traditionally know as a clown. L15 aren't overly aggressive but neither really are clowns (panaque maccus). This species wouldn't really be suitable for discus temps and there for wouldn't really be suitable long term

L30 is a lovely species, stays really small and would tollerate discus temps quite well... it should be fine with the food side of things but offering a varied diet is important as it is with all species of plec.

The galaxias, are we talking about L007?.... if so again we are struggling to keep it long term at discus temps, stunning fish that grows quite big, food again should be fine but varied veg matter should be offered just as much as meat alternative.

Really the only true suitable fish would be the L30.... theoretically all would work but they just wouldn't be in ideally conditions.
zebra plecos forever :fun: :fun: what plecos do you have??
 
:lol: Royal plecos are quite rare and expensive. grab it while you can. clowns tend to be territorial like most plecos to other similar sized and shaped fish. galaxia pleco and peppermint are very nice attractions. most plecos are sy but get to know their surrounding after a couple of months and come out more imo :good: all love their veg, e.g Zucchini :lol:


Certain royals or 'panaques' are harder to obtain and rarer than others but the species the OP is probably able to get will be 190/191 which are very common and sell for very little nowadays. Although these with tollerate discus temps, it really is still a little on the warm side, the other factor would be diet.... discus as you know require a high protein based meat diet.... royals should be only fed it sparingly and as an occasional treat.... the main reason why i would say this isn't suitable for a discus setup. They also require wood within the tank and they make a huge amount of waste lol.

The L15 isn't a clown more often called candy stripe even though places still refer to them as clowns the species is different to what is traditionally know as a clown. L15 aren't overly aggressive but neither really are clowns (panaque maccus). This species wouldn't really be suitable for discus temps and there for wouldn't really be suitable long term

L30 is a lovely species, stays really small and would tollerate discus temps quite well... it should be fine with the food side of things but offering a varied diet is important as it is with all species of plec.

The galaxias, are we talking about L007?.... if so again we are struggling to keep it long term at discus temps, stunning fish that grows quite big, food again should be fine but varied veg matter should be offered just as much as meat alternative.

Really the only true suitable fish would be the L30.... theoretically all would work but they just wouldn't be in ideally conditions.
zebra plecos forever :fun: :fun: what plecos do you have??

Currently just zebs now till i move in the not to distant future :).
 
Thanks for the great info! What one is the L30?

My discus tank is 27.5/28 degrees....rather than the hot side. I have wood and the base of the tank is heavily planted (good for the poop!) so does your points still stand?

I was thinking I could put the clown in with my other clown - are they likely to get on? I gather most plecos are solitary fish, so could they get aggressive?

What is the main food source of Royals? Does that mean they would eat up a bit of algae? As that could be a blessing haha.

I had issues with my ottos sucking on my discus. But once i removed the offender, all is fine with the other ottos. Obviously dont want this problem with a pleco.

Just now i have a tank with a pair of discus, a 6inch bristle nose and a clown (the one i talked about above). I'd like a royal, but i guess my 90L community tank is too small for him?!
 
As Jake said, putting Royals with Discus as a bad idea
correct. they tend to suck onto the discus and feed of their mucus on the skin Yuck! :crazy:

Even though this is what some people report, i dont think it happens anywhere near as often as claimed. People tend to read it somewhere and just relay the info as gospel.... ive kept plecs for many many years and ive never actually come across any person that has had this problem.


Thanks for the great info! What one is the L30?

My discus tank is 27.5/28 degrees....rather than the hot side. I have wood and the base of the tank is heavily planted (good for the poop!) so does your points still stand?

For the most part yes it still stands... the temp is still above what most of the species listed should ideally be in, the L30 (peppermint) is the only fish listed which IMO should be kept long term at the temps you have mentioned. The royal would probably tollerate the temps but the dietary requirements of discus are completely different to a panaque (royal).... to much meaty/protein foods is very harmful and can lead to all sorts of health problems. The other 2 species just really shouldn't be at the temps mentioned.

I was thinking I could put the clown in with my other clown - are they likely to get on? I gather most plecos are solitary fish, so could they get aggressive?

The clown is a candy stripe :p.... as long as the requirements are met for both species and the tanks is big enough for sufficient territory they should co-habit fine. To say yes they will be aggressive cant actually be predicted... each fish has it's own characteristics.... i think you will be fine but really to be 100% sure you would have to try and go from there.

What is the main food source of Royals? Does that mean they would eat up a bit of algae? As that could be a blessing haha.

Short answer is wood.... yes they will much readily on veg and possibly algae but wood (softer the better) is the main dietary required food.

I had issues with my ottos sucking on my discus. But once i removed the offender, all is fine with the other ottos. Obviously dont want this problem with a pleco.

It doesnt happen as often as claimed, like ive said above, ive never known anybody having that problem.

Just now i have a tank with a pair of discus, a 6inch bristle nose and a clown (the one i talked about above). I'd like a royal, but i guess my 90L community tank is too small for him?!

Basically long term yes.... a smaller one will be fine for now but they do get big, albeit very slowly so if you plan on keeping long term then i would also plan upgrades as and when he/she gets bigger :good:
 

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