Info On Breeding Red Devils And Gold Severums

[Anamagus]

I was wondering if it would be possible to breed parrot cichlids from a male red devil and a female gold severum? I am pretty sure that I will have to raise the fry my-self but not 100%. maybe it is reversed which would be a problem for me since I have 6 potential Females on there way and a 10 inch male red devil as well as a 2.5 inch juvenile male. Does any one think this will work?

 

[pica_nuttalli]

my suggestion? don't experiment with the 10 incher unless you can have somebody watching 100% of the time. if he decided that he didn't like the severum girlies, he could very quickly inflict a world of hurt on them. i'd be careful even with the 2.5" RD

 

[diburning]

I don't think it will work. I don't think that severums can crossbreed despite the speculation that parrots are a cross between red devils and a severum.

severum = heros severus
red devil = cichlasoma (something)

 

[~T~]

I never believed the whole sev x midas/devil thing, they are just too different and if it was done is was done in a lab as the 2 fish would never pair naturally.If anything BP's were made from synspillium x midas and I have seen some evidence of this.I actually have a male gold severum that is paired with my female BP and although they act like a pair they have never spawned.I have had members of my forum have a sev spawn with their BP's but the eggs have never hatched.

Trying to breed a sev with a devil will most probably result in a dead severum IMO.

 

[kubora666]

i had 2 8" male and female BPs and a small female 4.5 ". and also a 7" gold severum male.
the breeding pair had split, the large male wen twith the little female, and have laid eggs, now the gold severum and remaining female BP are displaying to eachover, i was jsut wondering is this a prossible cross? and anyone have any pics of what a BPx gold severum look like ?

 

[diburning]

i had 2 8" male and female BPs and a small female 4.5 ". and also a 7" gold severum male.
the breeding pair had split, the large male wen twith the little female, and have laid eggs, now the gold severum and remaining female BP are displaying to eachover, i was jsut wondering is this a prossible cross? and anyone have any pics of what a BPx gold severum look like ?

It probably wont work because first of all, they look nothing alike so they probably won't mate.

Second of all, its cross genera so its highly unlikely.

There are many cichlids that look like severums (for example, a discus is like a flattened severum), but I doubt that the discus or the severum was ever used to create the parrots.

 

[vancouver]

If you want to give it a shot, use a divider.. I don't see a 10'' red devil letting a smaller female severum live long.

What size tank are you thinking of using?

 

[diburning]

If you want to give it a shot, use a divider.. I don't see a 10'' red devil letting a smaller female severum live long.

What size tank are you thinking of using?

maybe they are made by milking the fish... get a large severum-like fish, a large RD and tranquilize them... Then, pick em up, and squeeze the belly and massage it gently so the guts don't come out.

Thats how they breed salmon in hatcheries (I'm a certified atlantic salmon breeder lol)

I have lots of stories to tell about my adventures breeding salmon, but they aren't hybrids so I'll keep it short

I had 200 salmon eggs in a 20 gallon long tank with a chiller. They need specifically 36-38 degrees fahrenheit because they need the extra dissolved oxygen and they hatch in the winter so the temperature simulates their natural environment. They hatched into alevin. Then some of them turned into fry lol.

Then disaster struck.

I put a sponge over the hang on the back filter, and the sponge fell off and the fry were sucked in. Luckily, only 2 died from that ordeal.

Then, when they got to about 2 inches, I took all of them (about 180 left) to the Merrimack River in New Hampshire and dumped them in (Breeding salmon is a government funded job for the Marine Fisheries of New England so I was authorized to release the fry)

It was pretty fun watching the fry swim out into the river, where they will travel downstream into the dam's fry ladder (which is basically an outflow waterfall next to the dam. The current is stronger there so the fish know to go that way. The other side, theres a fish ladder and sturgeon and alewife and other fish migrate up that ladder)

We also went fishng (to bring down the bass population to protect the fry lol it doesn't really work but I get paid to do it)

Anyway... I just started telling a story after talking about milking fish.... weird...

 

[~T~]

 

[Anamagus]

If you want to give it a shot, use a divider.. I don't see a 10'' red devil letting a smaller female severum live long.

What size tank are you thinking of using?

I have a ninety Gallon I can use and I agree my Red Devil is pretty mean I cant even put a Pleco in with him he had bruised lips and he didnt stop I had him in there for 3 nights!

 

[kubora666]

yeh highly unlikely for my severum and bp to pair, jet they laid firtile eggs
and are guarding a pit, after you guys told me that i was pretty sure they werent but hey!

 

[Paintsn]

If you want to give it a shot, use a divider.. I don't see a 10'' red devil letting a smaller female severum live long.

What size tank are you thinking of using?

maybe they are made by milking the fish... get a large severum-like fish, a large RD and tranquilize them... Then, pick em up, and squeeze the belly and massage it gently so the guts don't come out.

Thats how they breed salmon in hatcheries (I'm a certified atlantic salmon breeder lol)

I have lots of stories to tell about my adventures breeding salmon, but they aren't hybrids so I'll keep it short

I had 200 salmon eggs in a 20 gallon long tank with a chiller. They need specifically 36-38 degrees fahrenheit because they need the extra dissolved oxygen and they hatch in the winter so the temperature simulates their natural environment. They hatched into alevin. Then some of them turned into fry lol.

Then disaster struck.

I put a sponge over the hang on the back filter, and the sponge fell off and the fry were sucked in. Luckily, only 2 died from that ordeal.

Then, when they got to about 2 inches, I took all of them (about 180 left) to the Merrimack River in New Hampshire and dumped them in (Breeding salmon is a government funded job for the Marine Fisheries of New England so I was authorized to release the fry)

It was pretty fun watching the fry swim out into the river, where they will travel downstream into the dam's fry ladder (which is basically an outflow waterfall next to the dam. The current is stronger there so the fish know to go that way. The other side, theres a fish ladder and sturgeon and alewife and other fish migrate up that ladder)

We also went fishng (to bring down the bass population to protect the fry lol it doesn't really work but I get paid to do it)

Anyway... I just started telling a story after talking about milking fish.... weird...

Thanks for the info.. but man i envy you.. I really need a job like that B)

 

[~T~]

yeh highly unlikely for my severum and bp to pair, jet they laid firtile eggs
and are guarding a pit, after you guys told me that i was pretty sure they werent but hey!

Yeh thats what you said about your parrots, funny there was never any fry eh?