imbellis or plakat ?

[nibbles]

i see pics on aquabid of ''imbellis'' that look like plakats .. but when i search on google for imbellis i get a different description and pics.. whats up with that?

 

[bkk_group]

the question should be "imbellis or spendens", or "imbellis or smaragdina".
plakat means all those fish, if you want to get technical, i can give even more thai variations on the phrase "plakat" but you probably don't care.

 

[Ben]

isnt imbellis the peacful betta?

 

[rollntider]

no imbellis isnt the peacefull one...


The main differences people like to differentiat between plakat and imbellies is tha the imbellis has a "Mask" if you will. But BKK is right, plakat isnt the right term.

 

[White Whale]

isnt imbellis the peacful betta?

Peaceful, yes. But faster and more unpredictable when forced to fight.

 

[wrs]

isnt imbellis the peacful betta?

Peaceful, yes. But faster and more unpredictable when forced to fight.

but you can keep males and females together right? Ive been told that many times at other places and read it as well.

 

[wrs]

the question should be "imbellis or spendens", or "imbellis or smaragdina".
plakat means all those fish, if you want to get technical, i can give even more thai variations on the phrase "plakat" but you probably don't care.

but isnt there a actuall species called b. plakat and b. imbellis, and b. smaragdina.

How does plakat refur to all of them, when there is a betta called a plakat, and theyre diffrent kinds of bettas?

very confused.

 

[White Whale]

isnt imbellis the peacful betta?

Peaceful, yes. But faster and more unpredictable when forced to fight.

but you can keep males and females together right? Ive been told that many times at other places and read it as well.

Depends on the temperment and upbringing. Once isolated, they become aggressive. They must be in constant contact with their own species for then to coexist.

 

[White Whale]

the question should be "imbellis or spendens", or "imbellis or smaragdina".
plakat means all those fish, if you want to get technical, i can give even more thai variations on the phrase "plakat" but you probably don't care.

but isnt there a actuall species called b. plakat and b. imbellis, and b. smaragdina.

How does plakat refur to all of them, when there is a betta called a plakat, and theyre diffrent kinds of bettas?

very confused.

There is no such species termed as "betta plakat". "Plakat" is Thai for 'biting fish'. Also, plakats are the original short-finned bettas, not the mutated long-finned variations you see in the petshops.

 

[fishbit]

interesting. so basically a plakat is any betta with short fins? regardless of temperment.. then plakats can be broken down into other types like imbellis?

 

[bkk_group]

these definitions are taken from my site, hope it helps clear up some common misconceptions

there are a few thai words we should know when dealing with plakats.
pla = fish

kat = to bite

plakat thai = siamese fighting fish

plakat par = a general term for all wildtype plakat

plakat cheen = cheen is used to identify anything chinese. plakat cheen is used to identify long finned "veil tail" type bettas ("chinese style silk robe"). cheen indicates long fins and iridescence.

plakat mor = domestic hybrid fighters, traditionally bred in clay pots (mor).

plakat tung = wild fighters from the flooded rice fields, ditches, backwaters and marshes (tung).

plakat luk sang ka see = the offspring (luk) of a fighting strain crossed with a wild plakat.
sang ka see = galvanized iron sheets. commonly used to describe the hard scales of these fighters.
pla sang = a shortened definition of plakat luk sang ka see

the below definitions are from precha's excellent website plakatthai.com and are used by breeders of plakat mahachai

Luk Bang = Fighters caught in the swamp areas.

Luk Thod = offspring of fighters to look like the real wild caught fighter.

Luk Sub = offspring of fighters from cross breeds.

Luk Sard = offspring of fighters from fry that were freed in the swamp area.

Luk Kratang = offspring of the captive fighters.

Plakat Keaw = green fighter (betta smaragdina)

 

[nibbles]

i give up

 

[cation]

interesting. so basically a plakat is any betta with short fins?

That's how I understand it. Assuming we are talking only about males - most females have short fins.


But now bkk's confused me with the plakat cheen.

 

[bkk_group]

it is speculated that the origin of the long finned plakat has to do with chinese traders or monks taking thai plakat back to china and breeding them to achieve long fins. no one knows for sure but that is where the term "plakat cheen" comes from.
for all intense purposes, like itty says, plakat is the term for any short finned bettas. if you wanted to be correct though, "plakat" would refer to any betta that originates in and around thailand as it simply means "biting fish".