How Do You Distinguish Piebald From Marble

[ral]

Than I saw the two colors distinguish in a Betta poster.

Marble:

The body and fins have blotches of color over a flesh or any other light color solid background. For example, black blotches over flesh color or over white. The photo to the left is that of a red marble from my apache strain. Not all marbles have blotches on both body and fins. Many may have botches on body but then clear fins, or solid body and then blotchy fins etc...

Piebald:

The betta has a flesh face, regardless of his body color. To the left, a steel blue piebald from my blue apache strain. I find this trait very pretty.

Read this at Betta talk...

Still have a hard time distinguishing though. Are these fish piebald or marble (guessing peibald)...

 

[JoLtNbolt]

Hmm

I've never even heard of Piebald until reading this thread. Kinda creepy if you ask me, but then again I don't like marbles.

 

[ral]

Your comment really cracked me up

 

[JoLtNbolt]

well i prefer cleaner color patterns like butterfly or apache. marble or piebald just looks messy to me

 

[wuvmybetta]

From my understanding- a piebald is just a marble with a "piebald" pattern. They just call it that when it shows up. I don't think it's a specific trait that someone would need to aim for- they just pop up in marble spawns, I have several in my current marble tank. Here's one from my old red spawn..
http/i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/Kelly579/mmpie.jpg
You can also tell a fish carries marble by the white under it's chin and/or it's belly. It's just...marbling of a sort. I remember the first time I ever heard the word "piebalding", it almost sounded scary And most of the few pics I found on the net back then were unattractive, unlike that cutie blue marble there

 

[Elise]

I *THink* piebald is a solid body with a different color head and marble means there is a mixture of colors on the fish, but I think it has to be on each of the fins to be considered a true marble.

I don't really know, but I love that first fish!

 

[ral]

That's a cute betta wuv. I like the peibald look Well, next to full mask (i.e. monster)

 

[Synirr]

I don't think there's a well-defined difference. The way I usually see the world "piebald" used is in reference to odd blotches of missing colour, like on this snake. People can be piebald too... here's a pic demonstrating how a mutation in the same gene in both mice and people will create the same pattern of piebald patches
http/www.broad.mit.edu/media/images/mouse_baby.jpg

 

[ral]

I don't think there's a well-defined difference. The way I usually see the world "piebald" used is in reference to odd blotches of missing colour, like on this snake. People can be piebald too... here's a pic demonstrating how a mutation in the same gene in both mice and people will create the same pattern of piebald patches
http/www.broad.mit.edu/media/images/mouse_baby.jpg

Now that is creepy

 

[splashluff]

I've always thought of piebald as a white or flesh-colored face because I had a Paint Quarter Horse gelding that was piebald (he had a white face, and a black body with a bit of white). I think it's a really pretty trait, in all animals. I'd LOVE to see some Piebalds in my spawn!