Hospital Tank

[HayzH]

i just wanted to get a cheap small hospital tank....what size should i go for? and how would i go about filtering..as my filter isnt established enough yet to support fish. would a small plastic one do?

 

[BigbruiserAl]

40-60L is ideal becuase is cheap 25w heater £5 sponge filter £5 Air pump from fle bay £5 done. Another reason is you will want to try and breed your fish one day, That size will be great for some moss rocks and fry

 

[HayzH]

40-60L is ideal becuase is cheap 25w heater £5 sponge filter £5 Air pump from fle bay £5 done. Another reason is you will want to try and breed your fish one day, That size will be great for some moss rocks and fry

i thought you'd say that..i just havent room for another tank..local P@H have a 18x10x10 (30L) for £25 inc filter...god knows where i'd put it though and hubby would def freak!

 

[BigbruiserAl]

Horrible tank those pets@Home ones, i have here i only use to grow moss in now. Im sure you could squeeze a 50L on the kitchin work top i did. Lets not forget how Persuasive females can be

 

[HayzH]

Horrible tank those pets@Home ones, i have here i only use to grow moss in now. Im sure you could squeeze a 50L on the kitchin work top i did. Lets not forget how Persuasive females can be

pmsl....i dunno if i can afford a 50L ?? and he wouldnt let me keep another fishless tank!! i was just looking for a small cheap one, literally used in fish emergencies x One of those kids ones in plastic would surely surfice wouldnt it??

and BBA...are you under the thumb???

 

[holidayinn]

Emergency tanks depends mainly on size of fish kept, if keeping small fish like platies etc doesnt need to be that big really imo, 5-10 gallons would be suitable as its only used in emergency...if for example you keep cichlids, and largest fish e.g. is an 0scar, would need a much bigger tanks e.g. 50gallon or so in case of emergencies...

in addition, all you really need is a diy filter using an air pump and a small heater.

 

[Overload]

Emergency tanks depends mainly on size of fish kept, if keeping small fish like platies etc doesnt need to be that big really imo, 5-10 gallons would be suitable as its only used in emergency...if for example you keep cichlids, and largest fish e.g. is an 0scar, would need a much bigger tanks e.g. 50gallon or so in case of emergencies...

in addition, all you really need is a diy filter using an air pump and a small heater.

Why don't you look at a clear plastic storage box (like I was using for the bucket cycle) and when its not a hospital tank its storage space (or used for bogwood soaking!) Just needs a cheap heater and filter (run the filter in the main tank when hospital tank not needed).

 

[Tizer]

The clearseal 18x10x10 pets at home ones are about only about £22, going to go pick one up in a while myself. That and an Aqua Flow 50 filter from MA. I love these little electric filters for fry tanks, can wrap up the whole block with the sponge in with a stocking and it makes next to zero noise unlike the sponge filters.

 

[BigbruiserAl]

Horrible tank those pets@Home ones, i have here i only use to grow moss in now. Im sure you could squeeze a 50L on the kitchin work top i did. Lets not forget how Persuasive females can be

pmsl....i dunno if i can afford a 50L ?? and he wouldnt let me keep another fishless tank!! i was just looking for a small cheap one, literally used in fish emergencies x One of those kids ones in plastic would surely surfice wouldnt it??

and BBA...are you under the thumb???

Im not so much under the thumb as i live under it

If your 100% you dont want to try breed your fish then buying storage box as said is great. I use 2 110L box's (food grade) from The Range to house my 50 or so Apple snails in. They cost me £12, the sponge filter £8 and ofc a cheap heater job done

 

[HayzH]

Horrible tank those pets@Home ones, i have here i only use to grow moss in now. Im sure you could squeeze a 50L on the kitchin work top i did. Lets not forget how Persuasive females can be

pmsl....i dunno if i can afford a 50L ?? and he wouldnt let me keep another fishless tank!! i was just looking for a small cheap one, literally used in fish emergencies x One of those kids ones in plastic would surely surfice wouldnt it??

and BBA...are you under the thumb???

Im not so much under the thumb as i live under it

If your 100% you dont want to try breed your fish then buying storage box as said is great. I use 2 110L box's (food grade) from The Range to house my 50 or so Apple snails in. They cost me £12, the sponge filter £8 and ofc a cheap heater job done

GOOD BOY.....lol you know your place!!!

i WOULD like to breed eventually...this is why i saw the tank Tizer was on about..18x10x10 (6 gallon)...this would double up as a fry tank NO???

Emergency tanks depends mainly on size of fish kept, if keeping small fish like platies etc doesnt need to be that big really imo, 5-10 gallons would be suitable as its only used in emergency...if for example you keep cichlids, and largest fish e.g. is an 0scar, would need a much bigger tanks e.g. 50gallon or so in case of emergencies...

in addition, all you really need is a diy filter using an air pump and a small heater.

Why don't you look at a clear plastic storage box (like I was using for the bucket cycle) and when its not a hospital tank its storage space (or used for bogwood soaking!) Just needs a cheap heater and filter (run the filter in the main tank when hospital tank not needed).

i wouldnt go bigger than a betta and dont plan or more than 1 or 2...the rest will be small fish
wouldnt putting another filter in the tank mess up the cycle???

 

[Tizer]

two filters split the bacterial load, so when you remove one neither of them are capable of supporting the existing "bio load" of fish, however, it only takes a few days for the bacteria to grow to to sustain the load, since they grow at an exponential rate. exponential....i think thats the word i was looking for....anyway, once established, they populate faster and faster....yeah, exponential. #63###, dont you hate it when you look at a word and think "thats not right". nngh!

ps, pefectly good enough for fry, i grew my corys for 8 weeks in an 10x8x8 then moved them to my 90 litre.

 

[HayzH]

two filters split the bacterial load, so when you remove one neither of them are capable of supporting the existing "bio load" of fish, however, it only takes a few days for the bacteria to grow to to sustain the load, since they grow at an exponential rate. exponential....i think thats the word i was looking for....anyway, once established, they populate faster and faster....yeah, exponential. #63###, dont you hate it when you look at a word and think "thats not right". nngh!

ps, pefectly good enough for fry, i grew my corys for 8 weeks in an 10x8x8 then moved them to my 90 litre.

see this is what i dont get....
if you take media from you established tank and swop with new...you will have 2x half cycled tanks...so do u have to control amm levels again till they are both cycled...would this be the same as putting anew filter on your already exsisting tank..ie so halving the bio load?

 

[Tizer]

Its a little bit of a gray area, but yes you do have to test your water for a few days just in case there are problems and you may have to do one or two water changes. But generally speaking, as i said, the bacteria do grow pretty fast and are able to cope with the load within a few days. Its what we term a "mini cycle" while the filter(s) catchup.

I run both my fluval 2+ and aqua flow 50 in my 90 litre tank at the moment while my corys grow out. When my next lot of fry arrive i'll plop them into the fry tank and move my aqua flow into it. I know this will process the nasties for several days and i know some of the bacteria may even starve and die off since the fry produce next to no ammonia. But i'll deal with that as they grow. plus i'll probably do a couple of water changes on the 90 litre tank until im happy the 2+ is coping.

its quite simples really!

 

[Tizer]

omg, i just got my 18x10x10 from P@H and while looking through the fish i spotted some silver sharks that were about an inch in size. It really isnt suprising why misguided people buy them for tanks like the size i just got. Why do these shops have to sell such young fish, i swear if they imported fish that were six months to year old half the battle of "are these fish ok for my tank?" would me made easier and common sense might actually poke its head out and say no. bleh. /rant over. Anyway, solid little tanks these clearseal ones, highly recommend them over the other "kids size" junk. Now i've just got to do a big cold water change and watch my corys go mental with eggs tomorrow

 

[Mowbz]

solid little tanks these clearseal ones, highly recommend them over the other "kids size" junk.

Go look in the Argos catalogue. They have some very interesting "kids size tanks". One of them is even pictured with a few goldies in......