HELP!!!

[Elfëa]

We bought few new fishes few days ago - female and male betta, guppy male and female (to go with our one female) and a plec to remove algae.

We had the guppy dying last night - he was partly eaten so I can't tell what he died off. And now the betta male is starting to get covered with white spots... We've took him away from the main tank now.

However, it's sunday and nothing around here is open - is there anything I can do to treat him so he'll last till tomorrow when shops open?

Did water test - everything amongs the normal parameters, ammonia 0.

The tank is 2ft tank, with filter that could run 3-4ft so it's bit 'crowded', but not too much. (As we're looking to buy new bigger one in a month or so )


Similar thing happened with our previous betta too, and I don't want to lose this one. (Why and how and what would cause this... )

 

[WILDER]

If they look like they have been sprinkled in salt you have whitespot.
http/www.badmanstropicalfish.com/articles/article2.html

 

[tank212]

One problem is male bettas shouldn't be mixxed with any other fish. They need their own tank.

 

[OohFeeshy]

Yep. Also, what plec? Anyway, I'd add some whitespot meds if it looks like salt, or ich if not.

 

[Elfëa]

One problem is male bettas shouldn't be mixxed with any other fish. They need their own tank.

Well considering this one came from a communal tank, I don't see why it wouldnt' survive in communal tank. I mean, in nature, there won't be only one type of fish in a lake, eh?

The problem is that I need advice for NOW, before I can get to shops etc, as they're closed and we don't have any medication at home.

edit: What type of plec? I don't know, bf choose it...

 

[Skylar]

male bettas can be kept with very few types of fish. He probably attacked the male guppy. Male and female bettas cannot be kept together, they will fight till their death.

Bettas don't live in lakes. Most don't, anyways. They stay far away from each other in the wild.

I suggest going out and buying a small 2.5 gallon tank to put the male betta in.

 

[Elfëa]

Well this certain betta was actually with several male guppies in the lfs... several of their bettas were with guppies so looks like it is possible, even in their tiny tanks...

Bettas might stay away from each other, but not from other fish, I assume. From what I read generally in this forum several people do keep bettas with other fish with no problem...

I'm planning to purchase 4ft tank soon, and leaving the bettas live in the 2ft... but I don't know what the bf thinks about that.

But this is outside the problem which is the white spots on the fish that's refusing to move.

If we had any meds here, I'd be using them - I'm just asking if there is any 'DIY' possibilities...

 

[tank212]

Maybe but it depends on the betta and obviously your betta didn't like the guppy so what makes you think he won't attack another fish?

 

[Elfëa]

Well, considering the guppy might have also died of ich which this betta seems to have, and which is currently my major concern, not the guppy.

I'd like answers to that side, not comments on who killed the guppy... (I myself do blame to betta, but he didnt seem to have killed them before when I checked that with the lfs guy - who did know his stuff.)

 

[WILDER]

If the betta is in a tank of his own add some salt for the whitespot and turn temp up gradually to 30 while you get a med.

 

[Elfëa]

Problem: We only have normal cooking salt...

 

[SMSBrunetteGirl]

I kept my betta with my fish in 20 gall and they were all good

 

[Skylar]

One thing to add. You ask for help, I reply. If you don't want to take my advice on future problems which will most likely happen, don't. I told you to remove the bettas and place them in seperate bowls for the welfare of your fish. Male Bettas cannot be kept together. Female Bettas can be kept together in groups of 4+. Male and Female Bettas cannot be kept together unless you plan on breeding them, and even then they should only be together long enough for the female to drop all her eggs. I do not recommend keeping male bettas with any other fish. Sure, some might be great with certain types of fish but you never know when they might turn nasty. Don't call me a hypocrite for keeping my betta in a community tank either, I am not allowed to purchase anything else to keep a fish in.

To treat ich:

-Turn up the temperature.
-Go out and buy some aquarium salt a.s.a.p and add it, according to the directions on the box.
-Pray that they'll get better.
-Get some sort of ich removal medicine. You can try adding it now but it tends to not take effect until the ich are free-swimming.


Skylar

 

[WILDER]

Normal salt is fine for now.

 

[Elfëa]

There was only one male betta. And yes, bf was planning on breeding.

The betta died overnight. We'd highed the tempature, and bf tried normal salt on the betta who was separated from others. He died anyway.

So died another guppy - the new one we bought.

While we were away this morning, one of our neon tetras died too.

Neither the tetra or the guppy had whitespots on them. Only the betta had them... So I don't know what's killing them... they seemed to have settled in okay.

Only the plec and female betta are still alive of the ones we bought.



Of the 5 fishes we bought 3 have died so far - we bought them on Friday. We're off to the shop to talk with the people - and buy some meds too. Take water sample to them too - even tho, from our test kit, nothing seems to be bad. Nitrates bit higher than usual, but still below the limit - but considering decomposing fishes in teh tank overnight, I wouldnt' wonder what's caused that.
BF's doing water change anyway, as he'd had to take the water level down in the tank to fill the bowl for the male betta.

I don't like this. I thought first time we bought fishes from that place it was our fault they died, but for second time? (of the 7 we bought from there in jan to the new tank 2 are still alive... ) Fishes we've got elsewhere, seem to be much luckier... except the previous betta... he had similar problem...