Help With Identification

[cornelispronk]

I would be grateful for any help with identifying any of the species in this illustration.

There appear to be 18 different species in six groups of three (the large central trio is repeated in one of the outer cartouches.)

The colouring may have been altered a bit by the Chinese enamellers.

These were painted on a large basin of Chinese export porcelain, circa 1740. The porcelain has other designs by the Ducth artist Cornelis Pronk, who was commissioned by teh Ducth East India company to produce designs for porcelain. UT means that these are probably derived from colour plates of exotic fish, that date from before 1740.

Can identify any of these?

or know of the possible source for the prints?

I am also not sure of the significance of the grouping of the fish in these overlapping trios.

I can supply a better image by email if needed.

Yours

Will Motley

tichmot@hotmail.co.uk

 

[mark.w.jones]

Having had a close look I don't recognise any. My feeling is that they are either all made up fantasy pictures or all extinct species which seems unlikely.

 

[three-fingers]

To be sure it would be better to post in the marine section of the site, though identifications are unlikely if the colours are off...and the pictures don't seem to be all that accurate. They do appear to be marine fish though.

 

[The-Wolf]

the one in the centre seems to be an artists impression of a lionfish
top left to centre looks like a clownfish.

as threefingers has said. best ask in the marine section

 

[Corleone]

I agree on the lionfish in the center. The orange and white one on the bottom center looks like a clownfish. Opposite looks like a stonefish or scorpion fish or angler fish of some sort.

They look like highly stylized versions of actual fish, so there's a limit to how close an identification could be.

 

[loachman]

the one in the centre seems to be an artists impression of a lionfish
top left to centre looks like a clownfish.

as threefingers has said. best ask in the marine section

Center front fish is a loinfish.

Lower center (orange and white) is a ocellaris or percula clownfish.

Top center looks like a stonefish (or relative) of some sort.

The one on the left with the blue stripes can be a mature Imperator or annularis anglefish (marine) or similar. I'm pretty poor with anglefish ID.

 

[nosoup4you]

I agree with the lionfish assessment. I also see a couple different depictions of various clown species and a hawkfish. All appear to be marine fish.