Help With Guppy

[fishybuisness]

I've had three male guppys for the last three months and have no problems up til now,
one of the male guppys is now acting funny, his tail seems to be folded down on it self, normally his tail is about 1'' high now its only the height his body if you know what i mean, it doesn't look like he's been nipped, also he just stays in the one spot where normally they all fly all over the tank together.

Ammonia =0
nitrite =0
nitrate =15
ph =7.6

I've added a few photos sorry but there not the best quality pics but they'll give you an idea of what i mean

Heres the sick guppy

This is what it looks like normally

 

[WILDER]

Is there red edging to the fins. If so its septicemia.
Issolate and use a bacterial med.
Is he getting exhausted trying to balance himself.

 

[fishybuisness]

yes i think there is some red edging to the fins,
i have nowhere to isolate it

 

[WILDER]

You will need a bacterial med. Whats your location.


Septicemia



Symptoms:

Fish may have reddening at fin bases, blood streaks throughout the fins and body, small hemorrhages around the eyes. Dull listless behavior and lack of appetite may also be present.



Cause:

Systemic bacterial infection caused by various bacteria, including Aeromonas, Pseudomonas and Vibrio. The illness is often brought on by poor water quality or as a result of parasitic infestations or other infections. These bacteria enter the blood stream and circulate through the tissues causing inflammation and damage. Inflamed blood vessels in the skin and at fin bases stand out. Blood vessel and heart tissue damage cause hemorrhaging and consequently leakage of body fluids into the abdomen, which may lead to Dropsy.



Treatment:

Water conditions must be improved for all fish in the tank, regardless of how many fish are infected. Check your water’s Treat with Kanacyn or Tetracycline as well as with a medicated food if the fish will eat. If parasites are suspected, all the fish in the tank should be treated with antiparasitic medication. Using salt to help restore osmotic balance might be helpful.

 

[fishybuisness]

actually from what you listed here i'm not so sure it is septicemia,
there doesn't seem to be any blood streaks throughout the body and fins and theres no hemorrhages around the eyes,
also the red i saw on the tail fin is possibly just a natural colour in its tail that i never noticed before and its right out at the very end of its tail,
thanks for the help so far but is it possible it could be something else??

 

[WILDER]

Red edging to end of tail is usually septicemia.
Does it look like dried blood.
Are his fins sticking together with excess mucas or slime.

 

[WILDER]

Fin Rot



Symptoms:

Fish may have deteriorating fins, often with red or white edges. Secondary Fungal infections often occur.



Cause:

Bacterial infection caused by Aeromonas and/or Pseudomonas bacteria often precipitated by poor water quality, low water temperatures, or a combination of both.



Treatment:

You will first want to determine the specific cause of the illness, so check your water’s quality Ammonia, Nitrite, pH, and Nitrate levels as well as the temperature. Be sure to provide optimal water conditions and the correct water temperature for the species of fish you are keeping. Treat with Kanacyn, Tetracycline, Furacyn, Nitrofura-G or Penicillin. Basically, you want an antibiotic specific for Aeromonas and Pseudomonas bacteria. The use of a medicated food is also wise. Treat the fish in isolation (i.e., quarantine tank) if only one fish is sick. If not, the whole tank should be treated. In either case, water conditions must be improved and proper temperature maintained for all fish. Adding salt to the water may be helpful.

The success rate for treating Fin Rot is good providing the illness is caught early and water conditions are kept optimal. Left untreated this infection can be deadly. Early treatment is essential! Once treated, fin tissue lost to this illness will grow back providing the fin rays and/or fin bases have not been damaged.

 

[fishybuisness]

no it doesn't really look like dried blood and it doesn't look like the tail is stuck together with mucas or slime, i mean he looks fine except for the fact the tail is just folded over and he's just swimming in the one spot on the top of the tank, he seems to be starting to struggle now as well and its like he's trying to stop himself from sinking tail first but i think thats just cos he's getting tired

 

[WILDER]

Kept guppys and had the same thing happen.
Once they struggle to swim they rarely make it.

All you can do is try a bacterial med.

Does he look skinny or bloated.
What does it look like when he goes to the toilet.

 

[fishybuisness]

no it doesn't look skinny or bloated it looks perfectly normal other than the tail,
thanks for the help so far i'll get some bacterila meds tomorrow and try that

 

[WILDER]

Guppys are very prone to finrot.
Good Luck.