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mhoward1999

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Hi everyone. Here is what has happened: I have had a plec with my goldies for two years with no problem. I just got three new goldies that are about 2" long. They are the black moor and calicoes in my profile. Yesterday I noticed that the calicoes tails were kind of tattered, but thought it was probably from the stress of moving and figured I'd get some melafix today and put in there. This morning my black moor is missing an eye!!!!! I am just sick!!! His tail also matches the calicoes, too. There is no sign of disease other than the tattering. Is the plec doing this? I have one common plec that's about 5" long and a rubbernose plec that's about 3" long. I am freaking out! So if I take out the plecs, what can I do for algae control, outside of scraping by hand- which I'm already having to do anyway? What about apple snails? Are there other giant snails that aren't prolific?
Okay. I took the maimed black moor and the rubbernose plec back to the pet store. I told them what happened and they replaced the moor and refunded the price of the plec, since I bought it on their advice. I still have to find a home for the other plec. Do you think there is any chance the dojo loach could have done this? I want to get rid of whatever the culprit is ASAP. (My lfs will give me store credit for half the value of any fish I bring in.) I didn't put the new moor in there. I am waiting to be sure everything is fixed, first. I put it in a 2 gallon bowl with gravel and aerration until I can get this figured out. (He's only about 1 1/2" long.) I expect to do partial water changes every other day... Advice on keeping/making him as healthy as possible until I can get this straightened out is welcome.
 
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My money would be on the common plec as they like the taste of goldie slimecoat. If the fish sleep on the gravel at night then both plecs can try to make a meal of them so really getting rid of the common first is the best way to go.
The dojo i doubt would do it though.
 
I'm such a dork! He's a black flathead. I tried to do a search on the site you linked to, but it wouldn't work for me. Do I have to be a member to do that or something?

I took both the common plec and the catfish out of the 55 gal. tank and put them into a 10 until I can figure out what to do.

I would be greatful for as many opinions as I can get.

Now the 55 contains the four goldfish, a tadpole that is 3" long, and the dojo loach. That's it. Is it true that dojos eat snails? Mine doesn't seem to have put a dent in my snail population.
 
mhoward1999 said:
I'm such a dork! He's a black flathead. I tried to do a search on the site you linked to, but it wouldn't work for me. Do I have to be a member to do that or something?

I took both the common plec and the catfish out of the 55 gal. tank and put them into a 10 until I can figure out what to do.

I would be greatful for as many opinions as I can get.

Now the 55 contains the four goldfish, a tadpole that is 3" long, and the dojo loach. That's it. Is it true that dojos eat snails? Mine doesn't seem to have put a dent in my snail population.
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Hmm thats odd the link isn't working, you don't have to be a member or anything- see if this one works;

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/ictal...aluru/261_1.PHP

:unsure: ?
 
I would say he's your fish then thats responsable for all this damage, grows to quite a large size so i would say it needs around 60gals depending on the tank dimensions and the fishes activity levels :nod: .
 
I'm afraid you are right. Last night I took him and my remaining plec out and put them in a 10 gal. That makes 8" of fish in that tank. It will do for now, until I can figure out what to do. I really like him a LOT. I have a "thing" for catfish.

Now the 55 only has the four goldies, one dojo loach, and the tadpole.

Hopefully this will solve the terrorism problem.

However, algae is still an issue. Any suggestions?
 
For a coldwater/sup tropical tank with algae problems, it depends on what type of algae you have- is it green, brown or black or fluffy looking etc? If you invest in some very strong filtration for the tank, it would make it ideal for hillstream loaches depending on what the tanks temp is, but they do need a lot of care- but they will chow down algae.
Otherwise you can just add more live plants, which will help take up all the excess nutrients in the tank and help get rid of the algae, or cut down on the amount of time the tank lights are left on every day depending on what type of algae you have :thumbs: .
Flat Bullhead fish are predatory though...You need to choose between rehoming him or getting him a suitable sized tank of his own that he can grow out into, he will also need a high protein diet so things like fish flakes won't do- prawns, mussels, slices of fish, chopped earthworms, daphinia, bloodworms, tubifex and krill all make good high protein foods- a lot of predatory fish won't eat prepared foods at first though and you may have to gradually wean him off onto these foods using feeder fish(i.e cheap disposable fish for the catfsih to eat)- i've never kept one of these fish though so this info is just from my general knowledge of such fish. It would probably be good to either do a thread about him in the "oddball" or "other catfish" section of the forum to find out more about his care :nod: :thumbs: .
 
Thank you for the suggestions. I am trying to figure all this out. My algae is pure green. I tried in the past to find hillstream loaches, and could not find them. My lfs owner told me that they probably would not live in our water, due to high mineral content/ hardness.

Every time I try adding live plants the fish terrorize them and the end up all ratty looking. That's why I went with plastic this time. I am not interested in messing with the fertilizer injectors or anything like that. Outside of those, do you have suggestions for keeping the plants nice?
 
Really depends on what type of plants you have, some need more maintanence/care than others, im really no expert on plants though so it would probably be best to check this sort of thing up in the plant section of the forum :thumbs: .
As to the algae though, leave the tank lights of for a couple of days with the tank covered so no light can enter it, while doing small daily water changes with dechlorinator- algae cannot survive very long at all without light and this is usually the best and cheapest method of getting rid of it- wiping it off the tank sides with a clean sponge with also speed this process up :thumbs: .
 
I've drastically reduced the number of hours I have the light on. I used to turn it on when I got up and off when I went to bed. Now I am not turning it on until I get home from work. So it's down from about 16 hours to about four hours a day of light. I bet that will fix it.
 
I have a black moore that was completly blinded by a paradise fish. Two and a half months later and he is still doing fine so you didnt need to bring it back to the pet shop. You know what they did to it when you brought it back there?


"I will give you five bucks if you can get this fish into that bin over there, blindfolded"

Certain death!!! Pet shops cant sell blind fish!!
 
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