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newbie here. can you tell if i can keep different types of gourami in a tank together? thanks :/
 
Yes, you can, but it depends on a few things. For instance, what types you want, what size tank, male or female..etc. :) Did you have any specific Gouramis in mind?
 
Yes, you can, but it depends on a few things. For instance, what types you want, what size tank, male or female..etc. :) Did you have any specific Gouramis in mind?
i have 2 female golden gourami and want to buy 2 dwarf gourami, is this ok? thanks
 
What size tank? What other fish are in the tank and how many of each? Also, how long has the tank been set up - is it cycled? And are you sure the golds are female? How do they get along with each other? How big are they currently and how long have you had them?

Gold gouramies (a color morph of trichogaster trichopterus - the three-spot gourami) are one of the most aggressive gouramies you'll find commonly available. Though females are less so, they are still liable to attack other gouramies and, as dwarfs are rather fragile and susceptible to disease, it's not a good idea to add them if there's any chance they'll be bullied as even just a little stress can end up killing them.

Personaly I'd not add any dwarfs though there are other species you may be able to add - depending on your set-up (answer the above questions).

Also, you may want to post in the gouramies + anabantoids section in future to get more gourami-specific responses if you ever have more questions about them :)
 
the tank is 4ft, i've had it about a month, but i brought it secondhand and it came with everything, so filter etc already had all the normal bacteria. my gold gourami are deffinatley female and they seem very relaxed.
i have 2 angels, 6 neons, 2 clown loaches, 2 mollys and 1 platy.
 
Gold gouramies are three spots and they will become more aggressive as they mature. I would strongly recommend not putting dwarfs in there with them. :no: If you want more gouramies I suggest the blues and other three spot variants. Look here for the various types. They're only images. Most of them are mentioned in various threads in the gourami and anatanboid section.
Another factor is being sure to either get just females or only one male amongst the group or you will end up with aggression factors. Also they will attack the angels eventually. And they can cause some very severe damage and stress. :/ I say this from personal experience.
Hugs,
P.
 
I would not add anything if you have angels - particularly if you have a pair. Though I've never had a female three-spot attack angels without reason, if your angels pair up and breed, you are very likely to get conflicts as the angels will annoy the gouramies and temp them to act aggressively.
How many gallons is the tank? It may be 4 feet in length but that says nothing about hight or width and, therefore, nothing about volume. If it's around 40 gallons, you don't have room for more gouramies at all as the 2 angels and 2 gouramies need all that space themselves.

You also didn't say what size your gouramies are now. If they are mature fish and settled into their new home, they'll attack any new gourami additions - particularly if the new fish are smaller.

Adding a male would also be a very bad idea in this tank as that would probably end up making the gouramies spawn - at which time the male becomes very aggressive and your angels and gouramies would be at each others' throats constantly under such circumstances.

The reason I keep mentioning the angels in particular is that angels and gouramies occupy the same sort of area in the tank and both become excessively territorial when they breed. The two species very often clash.

Just an off topic note - the neons are likely to get eaten once the angels are fully grown and the clown loaches will eventualy require a 90 gallon tank minnimum - just in case you were not aware of this.
 
i found a new home for my male golden gourami and brought 2 females insted and 2 moonlight gourami. moonlights seem very peacefull and are not bothered by any of the fish. i'm starting to think the shop gave me a male and female golden though as one seems to keep going for the other :/ angels aren't bothered by any of the others.

starting to get stressed with what fish can't live with each other :X i want a variaty of colours and not just a boring tank of mollies and platys.

as for the clown loaches need a 90g tank, i'll just have to get rid of them, i didn't buy them they came with the tank and the previous had been keeping fish for 25 years, so they must have known :S

so as it stands at present i have 2 angels, 2 clown loaches, 2 moonlight gourami, 2 golden gourami, 5 neons, 6 white cloud minnow and 2 mollys. the all seem to be living peacefully accept from the 2 golden gourami?
 
It is possible they are two females that simply don't get on. And even two females can turn on each other or one on the other. If you do have a male by mistake then he will harass her a great deal, to the point where she could die. :/ IF they are both female a third would ease the tension between them, if not then you'll need to exchange. Sorry it's causing you stress. It does happen to start with but will ease with time and experience. Sadly, even time won't change the aggression of three spots tho. It's part of their nature. My male hates otos and killed them (all bar one) when he saw them. That single remaining one is still alive and well happily but any attempts to give the oto a companion or two ends up in their death. Is sad. :(
Anyway, try and find out for sure what your 3 spots are. You could post pics of them and we can have a go if ya like.
Hugs,
P.
 
Did you ask the shop to sex the gouramies for you? They usualy haven't got a clue. Go to the anabantoids + gourami section and search for info on sexing gouramies. If you stillc an't work it out, post some pics of them.

Also, don't add any more gouramies. If I recall rightly, you have a 50 gallon tank so you realy don't have roomf or any more. If the aggression between the golds persists, or if you fins one (or both) is male, your best option would be to return the more aggressive one. Also, moonlights grow larger than three-spots and, though much more peaceful, are not going to help with any aggression issues as they'll simply be taking up more space and competing with both the rest of the gouramies and angels for territories.

I know how overwhelming it can be to be told your fish don't all work together but it's necessary and you have to realise the importance of researching everything before you get it and never buying on impulse. So I'm going to have to add that white clouds are actualy only borderline tropical so don't appreciate the higher end of the tropical temps. scale. However, they can deal with it as they are extremely hardy but you may well find this makes them much more prone to illness than they'd normaly be and they'll have a slightly shorter lifespan.
 
thanks for the advice, i did ask the shop for 2 female, but it was a maidenhead aquatics. i'm taking one back today.

the white cloud where already in there when i brought the set up, so i won't have wasted money if they do die. :/

still not sure about the clown loaches, do i need to get rid of them as they will get too big for my tank??? :-(

oh well, we all learn from making mistakes :X
 

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