Goldfish in pond

[George&Ade]

Hi.Yesterday i decided to give my pond a clean out.(an abundance of blanket weed,algae and silt/poo on the bottom)
I think the blanket weed and algae was due to my "u.v light" being broken.
Anyway,its all clean now,"u.v. light" replaced and everything seems fine,except ive noticed on one or two of the fish have "abnormalities" around their mouths.
Only way i can describe it is sort of "hair lips"(like with humans).
It certainly isnt stopping them feeding but they certainly dont look right.
Also one of them has a sort of "ulcer" on its side(scales missing and flesh showing)
My neighbour advises i should try a little salt in the pond water to help kill any bacteria and help to heal these fish.
I have heard of people using salt,but im not sure,
A) how much?
B) what type of salt?
C) how often?
My pond is approx.950 gallons.
Any help appreciated please.
(here is a pic. of pond taken last year)
Also...is it best to treat plants with something before putting them in ponds? (some sort of bacterial remedy or something)?

 

[WILDER]

Can you issolate the sick fish, then add some salt and you will need an anti internal bacteria med for the ulcer.

 

[George&Ade]

hi wilder.
Unfortunatly i cant issolate the fish,but will get some "anti internal bacteria" remedy.
Could you tell me what sort of salt (ordinary table salt)? to use please and approx how much/often?
Pond is approx 950 gallons.

 

[Cat]

George I found this not sure if it can help you..

Salt Treatment

Kills Ich, Chilodinella, Costia and Trichodina

Nothing is more natural and more beneficial to your fish than performing a salt treatment at the beginning of the season. Non-iodized, mineral-free salt without YPS anti-caking additive, in the correct amount, kills many of the common parasites found on fish. It helps the fish develop and maintain a strong slime coat. A healthy slime coat is a must for a healthy fish. It protects the skin of the fish while containing substances the fish’s body uses to fight off infection. There’s no reason to use commercial products that claim to build up the slime coat. They also coat the gills, making it more difficult for the fish to breath.

Non-iodized, mineral-free salt is the safest and least expensive treatment to kill Ich, Chilodinella, Costia and Trichodina. It will kill certain plants so you’ll need to remove them to a holding tank before you begin and treat them separately with either Formalin or Potassium Permanganate. Use 3 lbs. of salt per 100 gallons of water. It sounds like a lot of salt - and it is! Spread 1/3 the total dosage of salt in the pond on the first day, 1/3 on the second day and the rest on the third day. Leave the salt from 14 to 21 days to allow it do it’s thing. Then make a 50% water change, followed by another 50% water change a few days later to dilute the salt. We do not suggest leaving the salt in for more than the 21 days.

 

[Cat]

Good site here for goldfish problems...

http/www.ponddoc.com/Store/FishHealthPro...s/Diagnosis.htm

 

[Paul_MTS]

tonic salt for ponds can be good for some things although it's more of a booster. it's redeily avaib;e from most shops. we stock the interpet guardian tonic salt, instructions on dose would be on the pack (sorry haven't read them yet!!)

We'ved recently had out breaks of ulcers and fungus on newly delivered fish, so there in quarantine being treated with acri flavourine. it's good stuff seems to be doing it's job. I think Malachite Green may be another choice aswell.

 

[George&Ade]

Wow...thanks for all the replies.
I will try the salt treatment this week (according to my calculations,for a 950 gallon pond,i will need to use approx.25pounds of salt)
This sounds rather a lot to me.what do you think?
Anyway,thanks once again

 

[Paul_MTS]

it does sound alot!!

the bags we sell of interpet stuff is i reakon 1kg bags and it treats 500gals.

 

[bribones]

as a rule i chuck a handfull into a bucket of warm water every few weeks then cool and add to the pond when i do the water changes i think 25lbs of salt is a bit much lol ,if you can George&Ade get a large container for the solution and dip the fish one at a time for a short period of time ,not so much that the fish become distressed ,then return them to the pond,how many fish are in there and what size ?plants should be already treated (is that a word ?)when the leave the store but if in doubt treat them with a broad spectrum treatment such as malachite green or the other blue one (names slipped my mind)erm methaline ?
pond looks great by the way

 

[George&Ade]

Hi bribones.The reason i mentioned 25lbs. of salt was,it was in the "copied text" that cat sent me (thanks again cat) i.e. "use 3lbs.of salt per 100 gallons of water"
I did my calculations...1000 gallons=30lbs salt...Approx.25lbs...obviously too much.
I have 6 fish left in the pond now,about 3-4 inches long(not including tails)shubumpkins and ordinary goldfish.
Have just cleaned out the sludge and muck off the bottom and all the blanket weed that accumalated over the winter(due to u.v.bulb filling up with water and not working)
Not very happy with this type of u.v.light,so have now purchased a 25watt independant unit as apposed to the 9 watt i had before.
I definitly have to get some plants in there as i only have a lily in pond at the moment,which is why i asked the question about treating them before i put them in pond.
Is "malachite grenn" the stuff to use then?....i take it i make up a solution of this and then wash the leaves and roots in it?....or actually submerge the whole plant into the solution?....maybe overnight?
Sorry about all the questions,but i want to make sure i get it right this time,and if possible,save the remaining 6 fish.
Thanks once again for all your advice...
P.S. Im ADE by the way......George is my other half......lol

 

[bribones]

just follow the instructions on the bottle ,there should be some re concentrated treatment ,or as youve stated leave them overnight ,like i say they should be treat when they leave the store but it pays to be safe

 

[WILDER]

Malachite Green (zinc free) 100% Cures Ich, fungus, oodinium (velvet) mouth fungus, and prevents fungus on some eggs, most effective when used with salt. 28.4 grams make 1 gallon. Then use 1 drop per gallon.

 

[George&Ade]

Many thanks