Freshwater Bumblee Goby?!

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Yes it's true. I went to the HarMar Petstore, just to pick up some freeze dried bloodworms, and to look at the fish.
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There they were! I saw her (along with about five others) in a tank full of gouramis, and I though, gouramis aren't brackish... so I asked the person, said they were born and raised (along with there parents) in fresh water, so I bought one! I've always wanted a goby and now I do!
 
eh?
there seems to be a little consternation over bumblebee gobys being fw or sw.confusing for a novice such as i , who bought 5 such fish a few months ago and keeps them in a freshwater tank .
Are they all gonna die?
 
I'm no expert on this by any stretch of the imagination, but my undertsanding is as follws:

1 - Bumblebee gobies are ALL fine in freshwater as juveniles

2 - SOME will tolerate FW as adults but certainly not thrive

3 - The is one species of true FW bumblebee goby

4 - The chances of finding it correctly identified as such are about the same as seeing a great white shark in your LFS tanks
 
I actually think that it is a fw goby, if not as it ages it need to be in a brackish tank, I dont believe there totally sw.
 
I'm no expert on this by any stretch of the imagination, but my undertsanding is as follws:

1 - Bumblebee gobies are ALL fine in freshwater as juveniles

2 - SOME will tolerate FW as adults but certainly not thrive

3 - The is one species of true FW bumblebee goby

4 - The chances of finding it correctly identified as such are about the same as seeing a great white shark in your LFS tanks

EH mine seem fine,they are the only fish i have from my original purchases when i first got my tank(some of the guppies died,some of the neons died)so.

do i possibly have the fresh water species(in which case i will enjoy visiting the 3000 gal tank at my lfs)or
do i have some fish that would be better off in a brackish/sw tank(i could advertise them free to good home, it would be cruel to keep them if they are not 100% happy)
 
Well its nice your thinking about the fish, but wait until someone has more info, Im not sure, and the other poster is 100 percent sure.
 
There are both freshwater and brackish bumblebee gobies. I've had one in freshwater for almost 2 years now and it seems to be doing pretty well. It was in a freshwater tank at Petco for 99cents so we went for it, hoping it wasn't brackish.
 
I started a thread a while ago called Brackish water fish that aren't, and bumblebee gobies are a case in point. According to the scientific literature, as well as the Aqualog book on brackish water, and from my discussions with a professional gobiologist, the bottom line is this:

Bumblebee gobies naturally inhabit fresh, rather than brackish, water.

Many, like Brachygobius doriae, are even found in soft, acidic conditions similar to those discus and neons thrive in! The idea that bumblebee gobies need salt is a myth, and probably more about the fact people look after them badly. They don't eat flake food, for example, and they cannot compete for food with active species. So, I'm sure the majority of bumblebee gobies die because they starve to death.

The second question is does adding salt help. According to lots of people who keep them, and even according to the Aqualog book, adding salt does make for healthier gobies, particularly if you want to breed them.

My own bumblebee gobies are in an aquarium at pH 6.5-7, with peat filtration and only moderately hard water. They seem to be doing fine, and have been for the last 9 months, with the females ripening with eggs and the male at least once donning spawning colours. I had a pH crash a month or so ago when I lost some fish, but the bumblebee gobies weren't among them, so they seemed to tolerate a pH of less than 6 for at least a day or so.

A problem with the aquarium books is that (I am very reliably informed) almost all of the pictures are misidentified. For example, Hypogymnogobius xanthozona simply doesn't get traded because it is incredibly rare in the wild, so any book or magazine that refers to "Brachygobius xanthozona" is unreliable. The commonly traded species (in the UK anyway) are Brachygobius sabanus and Brachygobius doriae.

Bottom line, bumblebee gobies are not "brackish water fish" in the sense of naturally coming from brackish water habitats. They can adapt to brackish water, and there is some evidence they are easier to look after in brackish water. Some will adapt to sea water as well, if it's done carefully (but then, so will some cichlids, but no-one recommends keeping them in reef tanks!). On the other hand, they can be kept in freshwater indefinitely, all else being equal.

Cheers,

Neale

PS. The Brackish FAQ has links to the Fishbase pages for the most commonly traded species.
 
i had a few bumble gobies some time ago, they lasted about a year before they died. the weird thing was they all happened to die one day after the other. (all the water stats were fine) and i agree that they probably starved to death, because the only thing i could get mine to eat was frozen/live brine shrimp, and them being a slow bottom dweller the other tank mates would eat all the food before they would get a chance. i wouldn't suggest them unless they are in a small tank or you are highly dedicated to them. trying to feed them was a pain.
 
BBGS(bumble bee goby) are a brackish fish that when spawn time comes travel into freshwater and spawn.that is when they are caught and sold in freshwater.they will live for a short period in FW but will need brackish water at aboutr 1.005
 
BBGS(bumble bee goby) are a brackish fish that when spawn time comes travel into freshwater and spawn.that is when they are caught and sold in freshwater.they will live for a short period in FW but will need brackish water at aboutr 1.005

This is simply not true. Please see the above post by nmonks for details.
 

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