Fish for 54 Gallon?
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Jamnog
Fish Herder
i dont know much about golden barbs, amano shrim or rasbora but i wouls say that the rest of them will do fine together all good comunity fish i can see the gourami and the krib posibly not seeing entirely eye to eye but i dont htink it would be a problem in terms of their well neing i think you have made some good choises for an allround comunity tank and if you dont mind me saying you could probably get quite allot of those in a 54 gal tank.
Just a warning - barbs are a fiesty fish and if not kept in a decent sized group (4 or more)will tend to pick at other fish, especially ones that have long fins, gouramis can be pretty fiesty tho - so posibly could keep barbs inline - but its hard to tell, just make sure youve got a spare tank handy incase you have to move them Goodluck!
Starry^
yes, i wasn't sure about the barbs, but a friend has a few in his tank, and his barbs don't bother the other fish. same with the kribs. i figure if i have enough hiding places in a tank that size, i wont have too many problems. 
i could put just one cherry barb in the tank, but it might look odd only having one of that species.
starry, you said that gouramis are pretty fiesty as well. are they still ok to be kept with smaller fish?
thx for everyones advice, i really appreciate it.
i could put just one cherry barb in the tank, but it might look odd only having one of that species.
starry, you said that gouramis are pretty fiesty as well. are they still ok to be kept with smaller fish?
thx for everyones advice, i really appreciate it.
Alia
Fishaholic
Poor cherry barbs 
get such a bad rap because they are lumped together with other barbs (primarily tiger barbs, I think, but maybe all the others). Absolutely everything I have found written describing cherry barbs specifically indicates that they are not at all aggressive or nippy, that they in fact enjoy the company of other species of fish and are not that fond of their own species, and that they are best kept alone (1 cherry barb) or in pairs. I only have two males and they are juveniles that have always been together, so my actual experience with this fish is limited, BUT, I have read a lot about them and I know they are not like other barbs.
My two males sometimes swim together, sometimes not, and they are very comfortable in my community tank with dwarf gouramis, black skirt tetras, cory cats, and 1 male kribensis. I would classify them as somewhat shy, not aggressive in the least, and pretty to watch. They weren't as hardy as I thought (two others died early on), but they're doing fine in my tank now.
In a tank that size, I would imagine you could have two to three pairs of cherry barbs, or even 3 to 5 males without a problem, depending of course on how many of the other fishes you want. The males probably wouldn't shoal, but they would be happy if they could easily ignore eachother. Lots of plants and territory markers would make everyone happy, especially the kribs, and they particularly like caves
) Now I see that you also had golden barbs on your list and maybe people meant them and not the cherry barbs are fiesty (or maybe they meant both). I know absolutely nothing about golden barbs.
Btw, my dwarf gouramis have never been at all aggressive with my other fish, nor have my black skirt tetras (but they chase each other like crazy). My krib was added last and will not be a permanent member of this community, but he has fit in well, also.
Is there a particular raspbora you had in mind?
get such a bad rap because they are lumped together with other barbs (primarily tiger barbs, I think, but maybe all the others). Absolutely everything I have found written describing cherry barbs specifically indicates that they are not at all aggressive or nippy, that they in fact enjoy the company of other species of fish and are not that fond of their own species, and that they are best kept alone (1 cherry barb) or in pairs. I only have two males and they are juveniles that have always been together, so my actual experience with this fish is limited, BUT, I have read a lot about them and I know they are not like other barbs.My two males sometimes swim together, sometimes not, and they are very comfortable in my community tank with dwarf gouramis, black skirt tetras, cory cats, and 1 male kribensis. I would classify them as somewhat shy, not aggressive in the least, and pretty to watch. They weren't as hardy as I thought (two others died early on), but they're doing fine in my tank now.
In a tank that size, I would imagine you could have two to three pairs of cherry barbs, or even 3 to 5 males without a problem, depending of course on how many of the other fishes you want. The males probably wouldn't shoal, but they would be happy if they could easily ignore eachother. Lots of plants and territory markers would make everyone happy, especially the kribs, and they particularly like caves
) Now I see that you also had golden barbs on your list and maybe people meant them and not the cherry barbs are fiesty (or maybe they meant both). I know absolutely nothing about golden barbs.Btw, my dwarf gouramis have never been at all aggressive with my other fish, nor have my black skirt tetras (but they chase each other like crazy). My krib was added last and will not be a permanent member of this community, but he has fit in well, also.
Is there a particular raspbora you had in mind?
i think what i'll do is add the fish im sure of getting, and then a little later i may add some cherry barbs.
thats good to know, alia, about your experience with cherry barbs
im not sure of which kind of rasbora to get. . . any suggestens?
oh, and i forgot to add angelfish to the list of fish i may get for the aquarium.
thats good to know, alia, about your experience with cherry barbs
im not sure of which kind of rasbora to get. . . any suggestens?
oh, and i forgot to add angelfish to the list of fish i may get for the aquarium.
Alia
Fishaholic
Angelfish, if you are pretty set on them, may change your whole plan to some degree. You won't want any fish that nip fins in your tank (possibly those golden barbs), and I'm not sure you'll want any small fish, either. Angels get pretty big and I think they can be predatious. Cherry barbs would be at risk, there, and so would some, if not all raspboras. If you look on this site for compatible species for angelfish, there aren't that many.
Angel Compatibility
What it's looking at is water requirements, level of aggression, size and so forth. People who have angels will be more help to you regarding what they have successfully kept with them, so perhaps you should start a new thread and say something about angelfish in the topic. Good luck!
Angel Compatibility
What it's looking at is water requirements, level of aggression, size and so forth. People who have angels will be more help to you regarding what they have successfully kept with them, so perhaps you should start a new thread and say something about angelfish in the topic. Good luck!
playfulalliecat
Fish Crazy
On that fish compatibility site, they list Siamese Fighting Fish aka Bettas, that concerns me a lot. I was at the lfs on Friday afternoon and he had run out of space for his bettas so was putting them scattered out in some of his other tanks. He has a tank with 2 large angels and some danios and african frogs so he didn't think anything about dropping a betta in there. It was so pitiful, the angels attacked it and ate all of its fins off, poor thing had no fins and no tail at all but was still swimming around as best he could. I have seen other things listed on this site that I know I have had problems with in the past or have had the fish and know their natures. Seems to me that they go basically off temperature and water parameters such as ph and dh to determine what goes with what. Seems like with temperament, as long as its aggressive, they will all get along and its been my experience that that doesn't always work. As with all sites on the web, they do have a lot of good information to offer but you have to be careful and use common sense when using the info. I love their fish profiles but have had lots of problems on the compatibility list. It also lists convict cichlids. That is a fish that I personally think should be in a species tank as they a very aggressive.
When it comes to fish, you have to go a lot on trial and error. Asking questions as you have done in here is the first and biggest step to successful fishkeeping. Also research, research, research, I can't say it enough. There is a wealth of good information out there, you only have to look for it. I don't stop with just one site when researching, I go to lots of different sites and use the info that they all have in common as it is usually correct. Other people's experiences can tell you alot as well.
I wish you lots of luck with whatever fish you decide to go with.
Allie
P.S. As for barbs, even tiger barbs can live successfully in a community tank, you just need a shoal of them to keep them occupied with each other. They get a bad rap but are actually pretty interesting fish. I have 5 of them and love to watch them!
When it comes to fish, you have to go a lot on trial and error. Asking questions as you have done in here is the first and biggest step to successful fishkeeping. Also research, research, research, I can't say it enough. There is a wealth of good information out there, you only have to look for it. I don't stop with just one site when researching, I go to lots of different sites and use the info that they all have in common as it is usually correct. Other people's experiences can tell you alot as well.
I wish you lots of luck with whatever fish you decide to go with.
Allie
P.S. As for barbs, even tiger barbs can live successfully in a community tank, you just need a shoal of them to keep them occupied with each other. They get a bad rap but are actually pretty interesting fish. I have 5 of them and love to watch them!
Jamnog
Fish Herder
wow thats a sad story playfulalliecat im sorry you had to see that its kinda making me distressed to hear it. i think that they might have put in the siamese because in a larger tank it would have stood a chance or maybee they ment the females i dont know. in terms of what a beta would hurt thats often what they think of when they clasify something as they would say a beta wont go for anything larger than itself thus it will be ok in an angel tank :shudder: i think its a shame but now we all know i wouldnt put a beta in with most of the fish i have kept but they are normally a good comunity fish.
edit: also i know chery barbs are ok on that list as i said i just havent heard anything about golden barbs they are probably fine
edit: also i know chery barbs are ok on that list as i said i just havent heard anything about golden barbs they are probably fine
oh, man. i just love how angels look! i assumed they were a community fish, and compatible with almost any other community fish, because and acquaintance of mine has angels, barbs, white clouds, otos, neons (!) and some others in a 54 gallon like mine.
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