Fish food nutrition

Martyn87

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Hey all, I am baffled by the lack of information about fish food and the conflicting stories about what’s best to feed.

Some people advocate using only dry fish foods, others live food and then others suggest Not to use live and that frozen are just as fresh and safer from unwanted parasites. What about food vitamin soaks are they worth it or just a marketing ploy?

So what is the answer for a premier fish diet? and are all branded fish foods made equal? Do I use crisps, flakes or micro pellets? How long do they really last when you open a pack?

What about veg? My fish get a serving of pea once a week, is that enough?

I currently keep Swordtails, Guppies and Rainbowfish and try to just keep a varied diet with feeds morning and night.

Just wondering what other people’s thoughts are?
 
Hey all, I am baffled by the lack of information about fish food and the conflicting stories about what’s best to feed.

Some people advocate using only dry fish foods, others live food and then others suggest Not to use live and that frozen are just as fresh and safer from unwanted parasites. What about food vitamin soaks are they worth it or just a marketing ploy?

So what is the answer for a premier fish diet? and are all branded fish foods made equal? Do I use crisps, flakes or micro pellets? How long do they really last when you open a pack?

What about veg? My fish get a serving of pea once a week, is that enough?

I currently keep Swordtails, Guppies and Rainbowfish and try to just keep a varied diet with feeds morning and night.

Just wondering what other people’s thoughts are?
I don't use live food, as it can be messy and expensive.

I feed my neon tetras, zebra danio, and betta Omega One Tropical Flakes. Omega One really does a good job with nutrition and protein.

@Byron will be able to answer these questions better.
 
Rainbowfish, guppies and swordtails need some plat matter in their diets. Rainbowfish in particular need about a diet with about 50% plant matter. This can be actual aquatic plants like Duckweed and Ambulia, or vege flakes/ pellets and goldfish foods that have more plant matter in.

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If you use a vitamin supplement, use a dry powder form and keep it cool and dry at all times.

A lot of vitamins are water soluble and break down in water. Heat also destroys vitamins.

Using a dry powder vitamin supplement can help fish if there are sick or not getting a well balanced diet. You sprinkle a small amount of the vitamin powder on some frozen fish food, mix it in and then feed to the fish.

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Fish should be fed a variety of foods to maximise their nutrition intake, and to prevent them going on hunger strikes if their main food is no longer available.

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Fish do best when fed dry, frozen and live foods. The main live foods to avoid include Tubifex worms due to where they come from (sewerage farms), and bloodworms (Chironomid midge larvae) that have extremely hard heads that can't be digested by most fish.

Most other live foods are fine and brineshrimp (adult & newly hatched), daphnia, micro, grindal & white worms, small earthworms, aphids, mozzies (larvae & adults), small flies and moths, weevils & larvae, etc, are all good foods.

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Frozen foods are fine and the above list (brineshrimp, daphnia, etc) are all good. As is prawn, fish and squid/ octopus.

Some brands of frozen bloodworms are collected from sewerage farms and can cause intestinal bacterial infections in fish. Some brands are irradiated and are generally much safer for fish. Some people are allergic to frozen bloodworms and you should always wash your hands with warm soapy water after using them, or any frozen of live fish food.

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There are numerous types of dry fish flakes and pellets. Some are good and some are not as good.

Try to avoid getting fish foods with flour in them. Most manufacturers put wheat, corn or soy flour in the fish food to help bind the ingredients and to bulk it up. Flour is cheap and can be used to add weight to the fish food so the manufacturer can charge more for a heavier product. Fish can't digest grains so any fish food containing wheat, corn, rice or soy flour should be avoided, especially if the flour is in the first 5 ingredients.

Good dry fish foods for predatory fishes should contain fish and prawn as the main ingredients. Then some algae is fine.

Dry foods for vegetarian fishes should contain algae as the main ingredient and then fish, prawn and small crustaceans like daphnia, cyclops, etc.

Some companies add vitamin supplements to the dry fish food. Some of these supplements can be helpful as long as the dry food remains perfectly dry. However, dry flake foods absorb moisture very quickly and this can cause the vitamins to break down.

Some companies add herbs like rosemary, garlic, lavender, etc. These are useless for fish who can't digest them. Basically fish can't digest terrestrial plants very easily and should have aquatic plants and algae, not terrestrial plants.

Most colour enhancing fish foods have paprika to enhance red and orange in fish. You can buy colour enhancing foods or use paprika, blueberries and apricots, carrots or pumpkin to enhance colour. Get the fresh fruits and veges and squeeze the juice onto some frozen food. Let it soak for a few minutes then feed to the fish.
 
Thanks Colin helpful summary, my tank is heavily planted and I do already have ambulia in the tank and they also occasionally eat the crypts. I do feed pea twice a week but are they’re any other veg to mix in?

I do have a spirulina flake which I feed, but are there any flake brands that are stand out against the rest?

You mention earthworms, like straight out the garden or do they need treating first? I do feed the fish flies when I can which they like, what about ants?
 
I won't repeat all of what Colin said, but respond to your question on brands. First noting however that most aquarium fish will be as healthy nutritionally as they could ever be if fed only prepared foods, provided the quality issue is met.

Omega One is a reliable brand. New Life Spectrum is another. There is a third that has been mentioned on this forum by aquarists in the UK that I cannot remember the name of, it is (so far as I know) not available in NA. These mentioned have whole fish, not fish meal. And the other non-essential fillers are absent for the most part.

I use Omega One's Veggie Flakes and Veggie Rounds for the herbivore angle. Omega One also makes Shrimp Flakes. And Shrimp Pellets. I use all of these. New Life Spectrum's basic flake is another staple. And Fluval Bug Bites. This latter is relatively recent, and some of the best fish experts recommend it for all fish, from upper water fish to cories. It is probably one of the absolute best cory foods, as it is exactly what they naturally eat, insects/insect larvae.

I feed fresh frozen once a week as a treat, and use daphnia and bloodworms. The latter should not be fed more than once a week, this applies to all worms actually. Daphnia is a very wholesome food, and the cories go wild over this when they sink to the substrate.
 
I have mentioned Northfin food - and that's made in Canada ;)

I've not seen these in stores but then I haven't been out for several months...but even so, from the ingredients online I would not consider using these. For one thing, they contain "meal" not whole fish, and from what I have previously learned this is a detriment. Omega One foods contain whole fish (shrimp, herring), not meals, as does NLS.
 
Interesting. I started using this brand because I found an article saying it was better than NLS and Omega one because of the ingredients - it was the only brand that rated 6 stars. I wonder if they've changed the ingredients since that was written?
 
Interesting. I started using this brand because I found an article saying it was better than NLS and Omega one because of the ingredients - it was the only brand that rated 6 stars. I wonder if they've changed the ingredients since that was written?

Could you give me the link to that rating article? I only saw the word "fish meal" in every one of the foods I would likely buy and my understanding is that whole fish is better than fish meal.
 
Thanks all really useful. I’m actually using new life spectrum micro pellets and flake as part of my cereal diet as well as fluval fish bites so it sounds like my dry food is alright.

I do think I need to bump up my veggie side for the rainbow fish so I’ll look into the omega one veggie flakes. Is their any other natural veg I can use to similar effect?

How long should I use flake/cereal before it looses its effectiveness, 3 months?

I do tend to use more frozen daphnia and brine shrimp than discussed here probably 4 times a week as I feed twice a day.

My fish are literally like piranhas, they can eat 2 cubes of frozen in 10 seconds but would I be feeding too much if they can eat all of this?

Is there any difference between granules, crisps and flake?

So in summary diet to consist of 50% veggie flake 30% standard flake 20% live or frozen daphnia or bloodworm; would that likely suite my rainbows?
 
Flake foods should be used within a couple of weeks of being open. When you get a new container of fish food, pour most of it into a plastic ziplock bag and squeeze the air out. Seal it up and put it in a second ziplock bag. Put that somewhere cool and dry while you use the remaining flakes.

Pellet foods are similar to flake foods but flakes absorb moisture from the air much quicker than pellets. The main thing is to have most of the food sealed up in airtight containers and only have a small amount open so it is used up quickly.

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So in summary diet to consist of 50% veggie flake 30% standard flake 20% live or frozen daphnia or bloodworm; would that likely suite my rainbows?
That would be fine but go easy on bloodworms because rainbowfish regularly bloat up and die if they get bad bloodworms.

You can also feed them on raw or cooked prawn/ shrimp. I use marine mix and marine green for my rainbows.

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You can feed fish frozen foods every day if you like. Give them dry food first and then some frozen or live food after that.

Try to vary their diet as much as possible.
 
Cheers Colin I’ve always tried to mix it up. I tend to mix marine mix, bloodworm, brine shrimp, daphnia, krill.

Noted on the bloodworm.

That’s really helped guys and the guidance on brands is also very useful.
 
Bug bites is really good stuff. Their flakes have "meal" though.

Yes, that's correct, it is in the Bug Bites I think. I considered that just one food with meal was better than four foods with meal, and given the incredible benefit of the actual bugs in this, especially for cories, I overlook it, lol.
 

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