Does This D-d Pressurized Co2 Set Come With Everything I Need?

[aaronnorth]

http/www.aquaessentials.co.uk/index.php?...d514aed8681fa5a

Is there anything else i need to buy? I would need co2 airline, needle valve, diffuser/ reactor and thats it right?

 

[Karl1987]

I got that co2 kit a few months back of ebay for £80 brand new. You can get it of aquatics online for £99.99.

and yes it comes with everything you need including solinoid to switch it of at night which saves you a heck of a lot of co2.

Although depending on your tank size you will probably need to get another diffuser as the one that comes with it aint really that good. Get a rhinox co2 diffuser of aqua essentials or aquatic magic on Ebay.

 

[fozziebear]

why not go down the fire extinguisher route? very easy and cheap for a propper pressurized setup just need fire extinguisher, regulator, solenoid, needle valve, bubble counter, diffuser, and some tubing. i found a regulator on ebay for about 46 quid dual gauge solenoid and needle valve, i got it from ebay usa because the exchange rate is the bomb at the moment, and the seller is based in hongkong n sells the same stuff on the us uk and aussie ebay.

 

[aaronnorth]

I got that co2 kit a few months back of ebay for £80 brand new. You can get it of aquatics online for £99.99.

and yes it comes with everything you need including solinoid to switch it of at night which saves you a heck of a lot of co2.

Although depending on your tank size you will probably need to get another diffuser as the one that comes with it aint really that good. Get a rhinox co2 diffuser of aqua essentials or aquatic magic on Ebay.

I wasn't planning on getting from there anyway, I have also found it cheaper, thanks.

why not go down the fire extinguisher route? very easy and cheap for a propper pressurized setup just need fire extinguisher, regulator, solenoid, needle valve, bubble counter, diffuser, and some tubing. i found a regulator on ebay for about 46 quid dual gauge solenoid and needle valve, i got it from ebay usa because the exchange rate is the bomb at the moment, and the seller is based in hongkong n sells the same stuff on the us uk and aussie ebay.

If you didnt read my first post, then i asked about it but i didn't like the idea of it being so dangerous!


I have found this hydor nrg advanced system, only £60 but is it any good?

http/www.1st4aquatics.com/hydor-advanced...ttle-3039-p.asp

 

[fozziebear]

just go down the nutrafin route if you arent gonna do propper pressurized because its not really worth getting those kinds of disposable cylinder sets, just link 2 or 3 nutrafins together and changes em on different days of the week. you can get bottles designed for co2 but a fire extinguisher really isnt that dangerous its only if it tips onto its side which if you do it right isnt going to happen.

 

[Luketendo]

Hydor sets are rubbish apparently.

EAGLES!!

 

[Themuleous]

Yes it comes with everything you need, buts its expensive and compared to a 2kg FE wont last nearly as long per cylinder.

Sam

 

[Jonno]

aaron - thanks for posting this - was going to ask the same question!

how does this D-D one compare with the JBL kits?

 

[Mikaila31]

I really would not go with a disposable unit. With those, once the cylinder is empty then it is garbage and you have to buy a whole new one. For the D-D one it costs 16 Pounds(I don't have that symbol) or about $32 to replace the cylinder. Buy one that runs on a refillable canister. With these they will sell everything except the canister, you buy the canister locally. It may cost $30 for the canister depending on what you get, but it will only cost around $5 to refill it. I suggest something like JBJ or Milwaukee, but I don't know if those will fit the canisters over there.

 

[Karl1987]

I really would not go with a disposable unit. With those, once the cylinder is empty then it is garbage and you have to buy a whole new one. For the D-D one it costs 16 Pounds(I don't have that symbol) or about $32 to replace the cylinder. Buy one that runs on a refillable canister. With these they will sell everything except the canister, you buy the canister locally. It may cost $30 for the canister depending on what you get, but it will only cost around $5 to refill it. I suggest something like JBJ or Milwaukee, but I don't know if those will fit the canisters over there.

My cylinder lasts me about a month at 1 bubble a second and is on for 10 hours a day. Cylinders only cost me £13.99 from my lfs so only works out at about £167 a year to keep buying the bottles which at the end of the day isnt alot of money over the space of a year. Yes the refillable bottle option is cheaper but its all the hassle of having to get them refilled especially if there isnt anywere near you that refills them like in my case. With the disposable ones all you got to do is replace it as soon as it runs out with a spare bottle. Plus the refillable bottles are quite big and ugly and I wouldnt have any room for one in my cabinet so it would have to sit at the side of the tank in the living room

Also the good thing about the D&D kit is you can buy a converter for it which only costs about £7 so that you can fit refillable bottles to it if you wanted too in the future.

 

[aaronnorth]

I got that co2 kit a few months back of ebay for £80 brand new. You can get it of aquatics online for £99.99.

and yes it comes with everything you need including solinoid to switch it of at night which saves you a heck of a lot of co2.

Although depending on your tank size you will probably need to get another diffuser as the one that comes with it aint really that good. Get a rhinox co2 diffuser of aqua essentials or aquatic magic on Ebay.

How do you rate this system? Any disadvantages etc.

Thanks

 

[Mikaila31]

I really would not go with a disposable unit. With those, once the cylinder is empty then it is garbage and you have to buy a whole new one. For the D-D one it costs 16 Pounds(I don't have that symbol) or about $32 to replace the cylinder. Buy one that runs on a refillable canister. With these they will sell everything except the canister, you buy the canister locally. It may cost $30 for the canister depending on what you get, but it will only cost around $5 to refill it. I suggest something like JBJ or Milwaukee, but I don't know if those will fit the canisters over there.

My cylinder lasts me about a month at 1 bubble a second and is on for 10 hours a day. Cylinders only cost me £13.99 from my lfs so only works out at about £167 a year to keep buying the bottles which at the end of the day isnt alot of money over the space of a year. Yes the refillable bottle option is cheaper but its all the hassle of having to get them refilled especially if there isnt anywere near you that refills them like in my case. With the disposable ones all you got to do is replace it as soon as it runs out with a spare bottle. Plus the refillable bottles are quite big and ugly and I wouldnt have any room for one in my cabinet so it would have to sit at the side of the tank in the living room

Also the good thing about the D&D kit is you can buy a converter for it which only costs about £7 so that you can fit refillable bottles to it if you wanted too in the future.

Then I would definitely go with the converter, refillable tanks come in a whole range of sizes from 2.5-35lbs. The bigger it is the longer it will last. I'm in the US, so I'm not familiar with the pin valves over there. But we have regular cylinder and paintball cylinders, both have different pin valves. Regular cylinders are a little harder to fill, I suggest the OP calls around to see if any nearby places fill them before ruling them out. But paintball cylinders can be filled at most sporting good stores. The problem is there are not many regulators on the market that can run paintball cylinders. I know Red Sea makes one, which I have and it works great. The only problem is I don't know if paintball cylinders in the US have the same pin valve over there. The red sea kit I use came with every thing including a solenoid, but not the canister. I bought a 20oz paintball canister which works out to 567g, so barely smaller than the one you are using. It costs $3.80(£1.90) to fill it each month, and about $50(£25) a year.

So, if the pin valves and threads are the same over there. I still highly suggest you go with a small(2-5lbs) reusable canister, or paintball canister in you can find the right regulator. Those canisters are larger and will make it 3"-7" taller, they won't take up that much room. You will only have to fill them 6-4 times a year, it may be a little hassle but it will save you quite a bit of cash IMO.

Edit: A US regulator will NOT fit a European canister. Figures, metric makes too much sense, we have to make everything really confusing, then try to teach it to kids. 12 inches in a foot, 3 feet in a yard, and 1760 yards in a mile. Anyway that is too bad, since in the US you can get a complete kit+solenoid+canister for about $170.