Do Shrimp

[lordotterby]

Get included with you stock limit?

At the moment I have 3 Amano Shrimp and I want to add about 2 more, If it doesn't get added to the stock limit (as we were told at our local Maidenhead) then it wont mess up my plans for the fish i want to add.

 

[RESGuy]

Get included with you stock limit?

At the moment I have 3 Amano Shrimp and I want to add about 2 more, If it doesn't get added to the stock limit (as we were told at our local Maidenhead) then it wont mess up my plans for the fish i want to add.

Get included with you stock limit?

At the moment I have 3 Amano Shrimp and I want to add about 2 more, If it doesn't get added to the stock limit (as we were told at our local Maidenhead) then it wont mess up my plans for the fish i want to add.

As long as you don't add like dozens of shrimp to your tank, I don't think it affects your stock limit

 

[lordotterby]

As long as you don't add like dozens of shrimp to your tank, I don't think it affects your stock limit

Good , just want to take it up to 5, as they can't cope at the moment and want to make a bit less work for them.

 

[three-fingers]

Yeah, shrimp barely add to your stocking level. Some people disagree, but just look at your nitrates after adding shrimp and you should see no change.
Its because while they produce waste just as a small fish would, they make up for it by cleaning the tank .

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Hmm i would include shrimp in your stocking (some types of shrimp can also get particularly large), but most shrimp produce hardly any waste at all (i would compare an amano shrimp bioload wise to neon tetra).
In your 75litre tank though you have plenty of room for more amano shrimp though, most of your fish are very light waste producing ones and i highly doubt that adding a couple more shrimp would be too much for your filter to handle .

 

[lordotterby]

I also want to start adding some harlequin rasboras or glowlights, is this going to be ok. These are going to replace the neons, don't want to over stock.

 

[severum boy]

i would include shrimp in your stocking (some types of shrimp can also get particularly large

I would cirtanly include bigger shrinp (anything over 3") in stocking as they dont clean up their fair share.

 

[RESGuy]

Hmm i would include shrimp in your stocking (some types of shrimp can also get particularly large), but most shrimp produce hardly any waste at all (i would compare an amano shrimp bioload wise to neon tetra).
In your 75litre tank though you have plenty of room for more amano shrimp though, most of your fish are very light waste producing ones and i highly doubt that adding a couple more shrimp would be too much for your filter to handle .

Right, I just want to add that in my post I was referring to Dwarf Shrimp

 

[three-fingers]

I also want to start adding some harlequin rasboras or glowlights, is this going to be ok. These are going to replace the neons, don't want to over stock.

IME, don't worry too much about 'over stocking' with a few small fish according to the 1" per gallon rule.
If your tank is <3 months old then I would actually stock less than what the 1" per gallon rule allows.
If your tank is older than 6 months, then I wouldn't use that rule.
More important in my opinion is to over filter regardless of your stocking levels (more room for error), buy a test kit (or get your water checked at the lfs often) and stock slowly.
You should obviously have no Ammonia or nitrites, but if you can keep your nitrates ~20ppm with the normal weekly water changes and the fish are healthy with plenty of swimming space, then your tank is not over stocked. With nitrates under 20ppm, you can easily add more fish.

Always remember however that some fish produce much more waste than others, fish like goldfish and plecs are very messy so take this into consideration.

Some people believe that you should stop socking when the nitrates hit 40ppm, but I've read a paper (and heard from other sources) that stated there is an affect on fish once the nitrates go over 30ppm. However the tests were done on fish from fast flowing well oxygenated rivers so they would be used to lower nitrates. It's better to be safe anyway... .

Oh, and lots and lots easy fast growing plants help too, preferably low light plants so you can also have floating plants.

 

[lordotterby]

IME, don't worry too much about 'over stocking' with a few small fish according to the 1" per gallon rule.
If your tank is <3 months old then I would actually stock less than what the 1" per gallon rule allows.
If your tank is older than 6 months, then I wouldn't use that rule.
More important in my opinion is to over filter regardless of your stocking levels (more room for error), buy a test kit (or get your water checked at the lfs often) and stock slowly.
You should obviously have no Ammonia or nitrites, but if you can keep your nitrates ~20ppm with the normal weekly water changes and the fish are healthy with plenty of swimming space, then your tank is not over stocked. With nitrates under 20ppm, you can easily add more fish.

Always remember however that some fish produce much more waste than others, fish like goldfish and plecs are very messy so take this into consideration.

Some people believe that you should stop socking when the nitrates hit 40ppm, but I've read a paper (and heard from other sources) that stated there is an affect on fish once the nitrates go over 30ppm. However the tests were done on fish from fast flowing well oxygenated rivers so they would be used to lower nitrates. It's better to be safe anyway... .

Oh, and lots and lots easy fast growing plants help too, preferably low light plants so you can also have floating plants.

Yay, I can more then. My tank is just getting to 6 months and I did the main tests at the weekend and everything was spot on, due to living some where where the water is spot on for fish keeping. Will give it a few more weeks for the fish, probably will be getting the shrimp this weekend.

 

[RESGuy]

Yay, I can more then. My tank is just getting to 6 months and I did the main tests at the weekend and everything was spot on, due to living some where where the water is spot on for fish keeping. Will give it a few more weeks for the fish, probably will be getting the shrimp this weekend.

Sweet, congrats

 

[demonmagus]

basically shrimp do poo and pee just like everything else. The reason you don't count them is because they clean up more rotting food than they poo