Dead Lda033

[dave_oddballs]

a few weeks back i bought a LDA33 snowball pleco, was doing ok, was a bit skinny at first but after a week or so got its belly back to normal.
yesterday i spotted the pleco in the tank sort of upside down in a bushy plant, near to where it always sat, worried i took it out and put it in my 2 foot upstairs, as its a much calmer tank, trying to give it a rest. it was as if it was dead, no movement, but you could see it breathing. at this point i kinda knew it was game over.
it was visually 'perfect' no markings or discoloration. well until afterwards it went white, take it thats what happens when they die.
any ideas what happened?
ph:7
ammonia:0
nitrite:0
nitrate: 0.15 - 0.20

Cheers,
Dave

 

[dave_oddballs]

cheers guys!

 

[pippoodle]

dont know wether this link will help dave - i had it in my favs from when i was interested in getting a snowball

[URL="http/www.piranha-info.com/default.php?lang=en&id=L142"]http/www.piranha-info.com/default.php?lang=en&id=L142[/URL]

 

[dave_oddballs]

thanks for that, read it, and have a few ideas why its no longer alive! i gave it a variety of food like algae disks, bloodwerm etc but after reading that its not really sufficient!
i won't buy another as i know i can't provide a propper home in a community tank! thanks alot!

Dave

 

[pippoodle]

thats ok Dave glad you found it useful after i read it i changed my mind about keeping one in the community tank

so sorry you lost him - they are amazing fish

 

[dave_oddballs]

yeah was a great looking pleco, the best looking imo!
i read basic info on them before buying but they came into the lfs 'by accident' kind of thing, added to 'fill the box' so to speak.
i knew i wanted one so i got it, it was only £15 which is really cheap. but after reading that link you posted i clearly understand why it did not/ could not survive in my community.
sadly, i don't like plecs, as a whole, enough to set up and maintain a species aquarium for them, and no way do i have the time to produce and 'culture' the type of food they need to maintain a healthy life!
its a shame, i'll put it down to experience.
thanks again,
Dave

 

[Davo86]

Malnourishment or Internal parasites sounds like the most logical reasons, especially given the species and your description of it being skinny in the store, Often these fish seem to be getting better but by then the internal damage has already been done and they then die very suddenly

 

[dave_oddballs]

yep davo i agree that would be a perfectly reasonably explaination!
i dont mean this to sound cruel but i hope it was something like that that caused its death rather than it being something i did wrong!
the water was neutral and all parameters were spot on, fed him algae, bloodworm, brine shrimp as well as other things.
it has put me off buying expensive plecos a bit, definitely putting the L047 magnum on hold!
as much as i like pleco's i don't want to be spending £40-£50 for it to die, although the things you pointed out are quite likely to have been the cause of its death i don't know for sure, and it just knocks you back a bit.

cheers,
Dave

 

[matt p]

yep davo i agree that would be a perfectly reasonably explaination!
i dont mean this to sound cruel but i hope it was something like that that caused its death rather than it being something i did wrong!
the water was neutral and all parameters were spot on, fed him algae, bloodworm, brine shrimp as well as other things.
it has put me off buying expensive plecos a bit, definitely putting the L047 magnum on hold!
as much as i like pleco's i don't want to be spending £40-£50 for it to die, although the things you pointed out are quite likely to have been the cause of its death i don't know for sure, and it just knocks you back a bit.

cheers,
Dave

Sorry for the thread revival but I've just come home to find my snowball has passed away, I've taken a couple of pics to show you how I found the poor thing. My water I'd pretty much the same as listed above except I have zero nitrate.

I'm absolutely gutted I could understand that if I had lost a cardinal or two that something was definatley up with the water.

My L134 and blue phantom are still ok though which im very pleased about!.

Regards

Matt

 

[Jenste]

yep davo i agree that would be a perfectly reasonably explaination!
i dont mean this to sound cruel but i hope it was something like that that caused its death rather than it being something i did wrong!
the water was neutral and all parameters were spot on, fed him algae, bloodworm, brine shrimp as well as other things.
it has put me off buying expensive plecos a bit, definitely putting the L047 magnum on hold!
as much as i like pleco's i don't want to be spending £40-£50 for it to die, although the things you pointed out are quite likely to have been the cause of its death i don't know for sure, and it just knocks you back a bit.

cheers,
Dave

Sorry for the thread revival but I've just come home to find my snowball has passed away, I've taken a couple of pics to show you how I found the poor thing. My water I'd pretty much the same as listed above except I have zero nitrate.

I'm absolutely gutted I could understand that if I had lost a cardinal or two that something was definatley up with the water.

My L134 and blue phantom are still ok though which im very pleased about!.

Regards

Matt

(sorry for the hijack dave)

but Matt - - if you have 0 nitrAte then your tank is not cycled and that is probably the cause of your fish's death.

 

[matt p]

yep davo i agree that would be a perfectly reasonably explaination!
i dont mean this to sound cruel but i hope it was something like that that caused its death rather than it being something i did wrong!
the water was neutral and all parameters were spot on, fed him algae, bloodworm, brine shrimp as well as other things.
it has put me off buying expensive plecos a bit, definitely putting the L047 magnum on hold!
as much as i like pleco's i don't want to be spending £40-£50 for it to die, although the things you pointed out are quite likely to have been the cause of its death i don't know for sure, and it just knocks you back a bit.

cheers,
Dave

Sorry for the thread revival but I've just come home to find my snowball has passed away, I've taken a couple of pics to show you how I found the poor thing. My water I'd pretty much the same as listed above except I have zero nitrate.


I'm absolutely gutted I could understand that if I had lost a cardinal or two that something was definatley up with the water.

My L134 and blue phantom are still ok though which im very pleased about!.

Regards

Matt

(sorry for the hijack dave)

but Matt - - if you have 0 nitrAte then your tank is not cycled and that is probably the cause of your fish's death.

The nitrate is being used by my plants and is kept very low this ties in with the growth of my java fern and anibius (sp)

The first thing I carried out was a water test when I got home and noticed snowball, on top of that I have chocolate gouramis and they are fighting fit, I'm pretty miffed.

Regards

Matt

 

[Jenste]

matt - I recommend starting your own thread in the emergency section so that the right people will be able to see you problem and help you out.

 

[matt p]

matt - I recommend starting your own thread in the emergency section so that the right people will be able to see you problem and help you out.

Cheers dude will do

Matt

 

[Carlovel1]

yep davo i agree that would be a perfectly reasonably explaination!
i dont mean this to sound cruel but i hope it was something like that that caused its death rather than it being something i did wrong!
the water was neutral and all parameters were spot on, fed him algae, bloodworm, brine shrimp as well as other things.
it has put me off buying expensive plecos a bit, definitely putting the L047 magnum on hold!
as much as i like pleco's i don't want to be spending £40-£50 for it to die, although the things you pointed out are quite likely to have been the cause of its death i don't know for sure, and it just knocks you back a bit.

cheers,
Dave

Sorry for the thread revival but I've just come home to find my snowball has passed away, I've taken a couple of pics to show you how I found the poor thing. My water I'd pretty much the same as listed above except I have zero nitrate.

I'm absolutely gutted I could understand that if I had lost a cardinal or two that something was definatley up with the water.

My L134 and blue phantom are still ok though which im very pleased about!.

Regards

Matt

As I said in the other thread, it may be internal parasites if nothing appears to be wrong with the pleco/water. Its a shame, he was a stunning pleco
Carl