Dangerous Medicine?

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I was not sure if this was the best place for this question, so sorry in advance if I put it in the wrong place.

Some medicines for things like Fungus and some anti algae products carry a warning that they could cause cancer.

How dangerous are these products, and what is in them that is bad for humans?

Wardley fungus and Jungle fungus say that they are dangerous. Yet they instruct to do partials after use. I just had my hands in treated water today. What, if anything, is there to worry about?

I am probably being over cautious....how bad can this be, right?

Anyone with info. please post.

Thanks!
 
The short answer to your question is probably no, you're not at any great risk. Assuming you use the dosage recommended, the amount of the carcinogen (likely formalin) in the water will be so small that any risk will be essentially trivial. In other words, no worse than anything else you might have done today like eaten barbecued meat or French fries (carbon carcinogens), eaten bacon or other smoked foods (nitrites), had an x-ray, or walked along a street where you could inhale fumes from a diesel motor vehicles.

There are risks from fish tanks, but cancer isn't really one of them. Electric shocks are probably the most common life-threatening dangers. Broken heaters expose mains voltage to the water. Pull a plug from a wall socket with wet hands and you can get a shock from that, too. Some aquarists recommend working in fish tanks only after disconnecting all appliances from the power. My little Mirabello tank actually says as much on the hood!

Salmonella is another potential risk. These bacteria can live in aquaria quite happily, especially dirty tanks. Any contact between the water and the mouth is a potential risk. It's a good idea to wash your hands after working in the tank. A healthy person probably isn't at much risk at all, but those with compromised immune systems should almost certainly take this risk seriously.

The fish are another possible risk. Lots of people get stung by things like lionfish. The strength of the venom varies, and virtually all the fish traded as pets come under the heading of "painful" rather than "lethal"; the one exception is probably the stonefish. While lionfish and stonefish are known for their stings, some aquarists are less familiar with the fact many other fish have been reported as being potentially venomous. Many catfish are venomous, and even the non-venomous ones like talking cats and Corydoras seem to have barbed spines and some sort of mucous that causes inflammation in humans. Scats are another group of fish that appear to be venomous, at least in some circumstances.

Bites should always be taken seriously, but morays in particular seem to have nasty mucous in their mouth that causes real problems in humans. Anyone bitten or stung by a fish should get medical attention. It is extremely important to write down the Latin name of any dangerous fish being kept. Medical treatment depends upon correct identification, and common names are too misleading and varied to be helpful. That said, most fish venoms can be dealt with effectively by placing the wound into piping hot water. The heat denatures the venom protein, reducing the reaction (and, eventually, the pain).

I'm not an MD, so my opinions are posted here purely for discussion purposes and shouldn't be treated as medical advice under any circumstances. If you have concerns about how your fish tank affects your health, talk with a medical practitioner.

Cheers, Neale
 
I agree with all of what Neale said, there. But, at the same time, I just wanted to say not to take those warnings lightly either. It was a long time ago now, but there was a guy who recommended that people wash their hands in ich medicine after having their hands in an ich-infested tank. This is nuts because a lot of the ich medicines do have carcinogens and toxins in them. Do some common sense precautions -- wear gloves when dealing with some of the nastier chemicals and learn how to take gloves off safely if you should spill. Work over a sink or at least several paper towels so spills don't get out of hand. Dispose of the medicines properly. Read through the product's MSDS (that's Material Safety Data Sheet) and understand it before use of any chemical. The MSDS's should be available online and definitely if you request it from the company. The MSDS will list all risks involved from using any chemical, and every company will have them on file -- they are required to do so by law.

And, immediately after having your hands in your tank, wash them. Thoroughly.

Also, if you are immuno-compromised (i.e. pregnant, or undergoing cancer treatments or have HIV or AIDS or anything else that is know to significantly weaken your immune system), get someone else to do the work. Like Neale said, there isn't a very large chance that you'll get something from it, but why take the risk if you are already immuno-compromised?

It's really a lot of common sense and care that is all that is needed. Just don't do anything dumb, take some sensible precautions, and wash your hands.
 
OK...since I have the initials, I'll rubberstamp neale's and bignose's post. Redundancy helps. Electic shock is probably the greatest risk. Bites/stings/impalements next. I doubt the risk for cancer is a threat unless you drink the stuff daily or use it daily and never wash it off.

The TWO most important things you can do with regards to staying safe with your tank are:
  1. unplug the electricity when working on the tank and use a GFI socket
  2. WASH YOUR HANDS after either immersing them in the tank, handling livestock or coming in contact with chemicals. Even some fish food (bloodworms) can cause hives and allergic reactions if they come in contact with skin or mucous membranes
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