Converting A Tank

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I would like to convert a 55l tank from tropical to marine, I have a larger tank that my cories and cardinals can go into.

Can I please have some advise as I have never done a marine tank?
  • Can I use the same filter, media (and bacteria) to avoid cycling?
  • What is the best type of sand (I'd like white)?
  • What is the best guide for stocking? I believe it is much less per gallon than with tropical fish?
  • Are there any pitfalls that I should look out for?
  • Are there any marine fish that are more suitable for beginners (I am after bright colours)?
  • If I do water changes using RO salt water from LFS will I need anything other than standard liquid test kit?
Many thanks,


Mark :)
 
I thought about having a marine tank but then I read this: Can Be Hard work.

It's an excellent post and serves to ensure you know what you are getting into when you go marine. I love the idea but it's not for me.

Read and inwardly digest
 
I thought about having a marine tank but then I read this: Can Be Hard work.

It's an excellent post and serves to ensure you know what you are getting into when you go marine. I love the idea but it's not for me.

Read and inwardly digest

I read that post shortly after making my post, it is very helpful. I'm not sure of starting out with a 55l tank as my first marine one, and still reading...


M :)
 
Are you intending fish only. fish with live rock or reef?
 
I would like to convert a 55l tank from tropical to marine, I have a larger tank that my cories and cardinals can go into.

Can I please have some advise as I have never done a marine tank?
  • Can I use the same filter, media (and bacteria) to avoid cycling?
  • What is the best type of sand (I'd like white)?
  • What is the best guide for stocking? I believe it is much less per gallon than with tropical fish?
  • Are there any pitfalls that I should look out for?
  • Are there any marine fish that are more suitable for beginners (I am after bright colours)?
  • If I do water changes using RO salt water from LFS will I need anything other than standard liquid test kit?
Many thanks,


Mark :)

To the best of knowledge, no, you cannot use the same media because I believe freshwater bacteria is different than marine (either type would die in the opposite kind of system). Hopefully someone else can chime in and clarify that because I'm not 100% sure. Please know that the media used in freshwater tanks doesn't bode well in a marine system for many reasons, one being they are "nitrate factories". It will give you more headaches than you probably want.

I used southdown sand although I've heard it's now tough to find. Play sand looks nice as well and is very inexpensive.

I am a huge supporter of NOT putting a lot of fish in a marine system. I'm sorry but I don't know what size a 551 is so I can't give you a suggestion regarding how many fish you can put in your tank. The fish/gallon ratio is greatly oversimplified, but you cannot put anywhere near the amount of fish in a saltwater tank vs. a freshwater one. I recently tore down my 65g. tall and I only had two relatively small fish in it: 1 cardinal and one 1 small wrasse. Wrasses zip around everywhere so even one needs room. Some of the easier fish are blennies (and extremely cute), cardinals, and royal grammas to name just a few (there are actually quite a lot that newbs can choose from). A wonderful place to look is Drs. Foster and Smith---excellent site. I believe there's an area dedicated to suggestions for a beginner's fish stocking list so you might want to wander over and take a look.

I think the biggest pitfall is trying to move too quickly and not doing enough research. Take time and read, and also take time to plan out what you really want. I realize this sounds vague and I don't mean to be; however, there's a lot to consider.

The test kits you should have are: 1) Ammonia, 2) Nitrite, 3) Nitrate, 4) pH, 5) KH or GH, 6) Calcium, and some people get a magnesium test kit as well. And, you absolutely have to be able to check the salinity of your tank and many people choose refractometer (although that doesn't actually check salinity). You need to monitor that level as it's very important. There are probably others but I can't think of them at the moment. As you can see by the list, there are many things that must be monitored in a saltwater tank. Regardless of where you get your water, you need to test it.

You're starting by asking excellent questions! Keep reading, and keep asking! :nod:
 
A thought just occurred to me: instead of moving your freshwater fish, why not just use your larger tank for a marine? Bigger tank---more stable and if and when problems arise, the consequences of the problems happen much more quickly in a small system vs. a large(r) one.
 
I agree with lady j. Use the bigger tank, also bigger tends to be easier in saltwater. Trust me once you start stocking your tank your gonna wish you had a bigger tank for bigger and better fishies or just more fishies! It's all so very addicting. Good luck and do your homework!

I setup a 35g after having a 175 and a 300g tank and the 35g requires much more work to keep stable parameters. Larger tanks tend to take care of themselfs after some time. By time I mean years
 
Aye, it's something when a 10% water change is bigger than most people's tanks.
 
Thank you so much for the replies. I was thinking of re-scaping the other tank with a soil substrate with black sand and adding CO2 (my plants are not doing well), moving some of the bigger and less compatible fish to a new tank that I am starting at work, then raising the temp and adding discus. The big tank is 225l (about 60 US gallons) and the small one is 54l (about 14 US gallons).

I would hope that 14g would be OK for a small marine tank, but having read all that you have written.

The problem with converting the 60g one to marine is that I will then not be able to get discus - 14g is too small for them isn't it.

M :)
 
Yes 14g is way too small for discus.

The usual figure that is waved around is 1 adult discus per 10g. Remember that they do best in groups of at least 6 (or perhaps as a breeding pair) as they are a schooling fish.
 
Aye, it's something when a 10% water change is bigger than most people's tanks.

Haha very true, I had two 60 gallon trash cans for ro water, both always had a maxium amount of 40g in it at all times. Top offs were a bit ridiculous at times.
 

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