Common Livebearers Mods?

[Duck and Dive]

Hi,

Being on this forum for a while now and mostly active in the common livebearers part I haven't noticed any mods on the forum, well to be honest ever lol. So mabye it may be time for at last an extra moderator which will be fairly active.

I hope someone can back me up here.

Thanks,

D&D

 

[Nick16]

well perhaps another mod would be a good idea, someone to help the newbies out with the common guppy, molly and platy questions.

 

[Ace Of Spades]

well perhaps another mod would be a good idea, someone to help the newbies out with the common guppy, molly and platy questions.

This isn't really the job of the moderator, Thats the job of the general user of TFF to help and supply advise to others.

 

[Nick16]

but a moderator is a person with experiance, i regularly see a thread with a question and about 10-20 follow up posts, and none have them have answered the question or spotted something unusual. For example, the other day a person asked, can i add some neons to my tank, people said yes becuase his/her stocking levels were fine, however not one of them noticed that in the stocking there was an RTBS. now come on, not only do RTBS need large tanks, but a mid sized RTBS and neons?? munch munch.

 

[Bignose]

now come on, not only do RTBS need large tanks, but a mid sized RTBS and neons?? munch munch.

Except for the fact that red tail black sharks are herbivores and don't eat meat.

 

[Ace Of Spades]

now come on, not only do RTBS need large tanks, but a mid sized RTBS and neons?? munch munch.

Except for the fact that red tail black sharks are herbivores and don't eat meat.

^^ What this guy said

Also, if you really believe that its a mod job to answer questions correctly on this forum, shouldn't we then just change the whole forum so only moderators can answer questions?. No offense to the mods but there are lot more knowledgeable people of different subjects that are not mods. Just because someone isn't a mod does not make their opinion less valid....

 

[Bignose]

but a moderator is a person with experiance,

As a mod, I think I need to address this at least somewhat. While one of the functions a mod should do would be to settle disputes, I think that you can't take their word as gospel or anything. Just like anyone, a good post will provide reasons and sources, especially if asked. Someone with no experience can make a post as good as someone with 80 years of experience, so long as the info is right.

A mod's job, more than anything else, is to moderate the forum. Not necessarily be the most experienced or best at answering questions or anything like that. Mods go the "housework" of the forum. Remove spam, move threads that fit better into other sections, and take care of members who get out of line. If life and people were perfect, there would be no such thing as mods, because most of the stuff we have to do is taking care of things that aren't following the rules. To be frank about it, you don't have to know are darn thing about fish to perform these duties well.

I think what you are thinking of is awarding someone a title like "resident expert" or "fish expert" or something like that. There are some forums out there that award titles like these to their most knowledgeable and helpful members, but these members have no mod powers of the like I mentioned above.

Now, to the OP. In light of what most of the mod duties are, have these not been done well enough in the Livebearers section? Has there been spam or unruly members? If so, the very first thing is to hit the report button on the offending posts. This sends a PM to the mods so that they can be taken care of in a hurry.

But, if there haven't been enough experts in the section, then I'm not sure what we can do about that. We try our best to attract and keep the best people we can, but we can't force anyone to be an expert in any area nor can be force anyone to stay. We are all volunteers -- mod team and every single member. Maybe this could be an opportunity to become even more knowledgeable yourself about the fish and earn yourself the respect as one of the experts in that area.

 

[JenCliBee]

but a moderator is a person with experiance,

As a mod, I think I need to address this at least somewhat. While one of the functions a mod should do would be to settle disputes, I think that you can't take their word as gospel or anything. Just like anyone, a good post will provide reasons and sources, especially if asked. Someone with no experience can make a post as good as someone with 80 years of experience, so long as the info is right.

A mod's job, more than anything else, is to moderate the forum. Not necessarily be the most experienced or best at answering questions or anything like that. Mods go the "housework" of the forum. Remove spam, move threads that fit better into other sections, and take care of members who get out of line. If life and people were perfect, there would be no such thing as mods, because most of the stuff we have to do is taking care of things that aren't following the rules. To be frank about it, you don't have to know are darn thing about fish to perform these duties well.

I think what you are thinking of is awarding someone a title like "resident expert" or "fish expert" or something like that. There are some forums out there that award titles like these to their most knowledgeable and helpful members, but these members have no mod powers of the like I mentioned above.

Now, to the OP. In light of what most of the mod duties are, have these not been done well enough in the Livebearers section? Has there been spam or unruly members? If so, the very first thing is to hit the report button on the offending posts. This sends a PM to the mods so that they can be taken care of in a hurry.

But, if there haven't been enough experts in the section, then I'm not sure what we can do about that. We try our best to attract and keep the best people we can, but we can't force anyone to be an expert in any area nor can be force anyone to stay. We are all volunteers -- mod team and every single member. Maybe this could be an opportunity to become even more knowledgeable yourself about the fish and earn yourself the respect as one of the experts in that area.

Totally agree, however dont you think in this case there should be more mods anyways?, just now a thread is going on about piranha's in a bucket lol and people mentioning the actually death of fish as though it's funny, the mods we have do a fine job but there are many occasions where there just isnt a mod on at all for varying periods of time. If the mods job is NOT to just answer questions but mod the forum to rid these sort of threads then should or couldnt there be more of them which ARE on for long periods of the day, evening and night... i could think of plenty that are ... they might not want the job but it would be somethink to think about..... few that ive noticed here quite a bit... oldman, minxfishy, rabbut, nelly and thats just a few

Just my 2 cents worth lol

 

[Ace Of Spades]

but a moderator is a person with experiance,

As a mod, I think I need to address this at least somewhat. While one of the functions a mod should do would be to settle disputes, I think that you can't take their word as gospel or anything. Just like anyone, a good post will provide reasons and sources, especially if asked. Someone with no experience can make a post as good as someone with 80 years of experience, so long as the info is right.

A mod's job, more than anything else, is to moderate the forum. Not necessarily be the most experienced or best at answering questions or anything like that. Mods go the "housework" of the forum. Remove spam, move threads that fit better into other sections, and take care of members who get out of line. If life and people were perfect, there would be no such thing as mods, because most of the stuff we have to do is taking care of things that aren't following the rules. To be frank about it, you don't have to know are darn thing about fish to perform these duties well.

I think what you are thinking of is awarding someone a title like "resident expert" or "fish expert" or something like that. There are some forums out there that award titles like these to their most knowledgeable and helpful members, but these members have no mod powers of the like I mentioned above.

Now, to the OP. In light of what most of the mod duties are, have these not been done well enough in the Livebearers section? Has there been spam or unruly members? If so, the very first thing is to hit the report button on the offending posts. This sends a PM to the mods so that they can be taken care of in a hurry.

But, if there haven't been enough experts in the section, then I'm not sure what we can do about that. We try our best to attract and keep the best people we can, but we can't force anyone to be an expert in any area nor can be force anyone to stay. We are all volunteers -- mod team and every single member. Maybe this could be an opportunity to become even more knowledgeable yourself about the fish and earn yourself the respect as one of the experts in that area.

Totally agree, however dont you think in this case there should be more mods anyways?, just now a thread is going on about piranha's in a bucket lol and people mentioning the actually death of fish as though it's funny, the mods we have do a fine job but there are many occasions where there just isnt a mod on at all for varying periods of time. If the mods job is NOT to just answer questions but mod the forum to rid these sort of threads then should or couldnt there be more of them which ARE on for long periods of the day, evening and night... i could think of plenty that are ... they might not want the job but it would be somethink to think about..... few that ive noticed here quite a bit... oldman, minxfishy, rabbut, nelly and thats just a few

Just my 2 cents worth lol

Not to be rude JenCliBee, but mentioning people for modship as stated in other threads will result in them being less likley to get the position.

 

[JenCliBee]

Not to be rude JenCliBee, but mentioning people for modship as stated in other threads will result in them being less likley to get the position.

I mentioned simply because they were what or who came to mind when i reffered to as who were on throughout the day not actually refering them to be actual mods, i also mentioned then probably not wanting to be mods themselves along with there are already plenty of others that are on here alot more than any mods are.


On the otherside though i think IF memebers have suggested people as mods then they would probably make the best mods anyways (if the job is actually wanted that is), who better to pick the actuall people to run the forum than the members themselves?, if i had any of the people mentioned above as mods then i know i wouldnt mind and im very sure most other members (unless they wanted the mod job themselves) would be happy to have them aswell

Wasnt taken offensively at all, it would be a first mind you that you have spoke or mentioned a comment ive made and not
meaning to be rude lol

 

[helterskelter]

all we need is a mod that uses livebearers more often.

I quite often am informing mods of double posts and topic's that need moving.
If i dont they stick around for a few days before a mod notices to move them.

 

[Duck and Dive]

Yeah helter would make a good common livebearers mod as he is a forum regular, knows a lot about livebearers and as he said above he informs the mods about double posts etc.

Lol im not even sure he wants to be a mod.

 

[owlbassboy]

knowledge has nothing to do with being a mod. they are there to moderate the forum and make sure people adhere to the rules of the forum. i moderate another forum and yes it is very easy to miss some things especially when its busy as you simply dont have time to look at all the posts that are made

 

[BigC]

As has already been said Mods have a wide range of duties and the are not necessarily experts in this or that field. They are chose on a multitude of facets ranging from time devoted to TFF, relationship skills, expertise in certain areas, how they have presented themselves to other members. Can the existing team work with such a person, Posting styles, Do they contribute with helpful threads and not just posts, Threads and posts of material substance. General helpfulness, geographical locations. will they be able to take TFF to the next level etc etc.
There is more to mod life than just sitting around moving & deleting posts.
A certain amount of self help and self policing within the sections by the membership goes a long way to helping us do our job too, If you feel something is not right then hit the Report Button. We will answer and take the appropriate actions. But you have to be aware of the time differences and so forth but help will arrive as soon as possible.
If the truth be known the TFF experience is spoilt somewhat (speaking from my own personal experience) for me because of all the extra duties you have to perform and be vigilant about. Reports to be made and further advice sought before acting on something or someone. That's all before I even get to look at the boards for my own enjoyment. It's not all a bed of roses and I really think others should be aware of the above facts before commenting. I/We do this for free, sometimes it may seem like heavy handed tactics are being used and cliques form and the mods get slated. A lot of the time unfairly.
My question to you is Do you like TFF (you must do because your here making comments and posting) then we must be doing something right. We are only human, we help where we can, we are only Mods not Gods. So sit back and give us a chance to do what we feel is right to take TFF forward. We do listen to your comments, we debate them all the time upstairs. If we feel something is a good idea and we can manage and cope with it within our framework then we will do our very best to implement it.
Regarding taking on new mods this is regarded as part of the evolution of TFF when the time is right and certain parties have shown excellent qualities then we debate and form lists of potential candidates, we have a list at present which is constantly reviewed, and when we feel we cannot cope or are understaffed in certain areas then we will surely bring new blood to the fore. Recently Ludwig and BTT were given Mod status and are getting to grips of what this entails.
There are lots of new ideas in the pipe line and being more pro-active with the membership is high on the agenda, but a hell of a lot more ideas could and would have been implemented if only the membership showed a little bit of sence and senceability. thought a little more about their actions and comments
and how it might impact on other folks enjoyment of TFF
Just a few thoughts
ATB
C

 

[Truck]

just my opinion on this...

5 active topics today
6 active topics yesterday
and 6 active topics the day before...hardly the most active forum if im honest and for that reason...i dont see the need...if you want something doing...PM a Mod

and IMO i think you want to be the moderator....