Cloudy Water

FlareBettaGuy

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I know that I have already posted questions regarding cloudy water, but here's the whole story. So if you don't critisize me, and try the best you can to try to help me out on this one, then I will not post this again. Ever. Here it goes...

After my old betta, Firebolt, died, I got a new betta. I didn't take the dead Firebolt out of his bowl the first night, cause I was to sad. The next day, he was rotting, and fish particles were all over the water, gravel, and plants. So I took him out. I got a new container, and it's one of those ones you're supposed to keep bugs in. The square, plastic ones with hundreds of little slits on the cover with a big transparent sliding door in the middle of the cover. As a guess, the one I got holds around one gallon of water, which is acceptable for a betta. Since the square container had more ground space than a bowl, I needed some more gravel. So I got more from my friend, which was full of poo, and washed it with hot water, along with the gravel from my old betta's bowl, full of dead fish particles. After I finished washing it, I washed the plastic container, his hidey hole, his little decoration thingy, and also his castle. I gave the dirty plants a little scrubbing too. Then, after the container was all set up, I put water that has aged for 4 days into it, and then the betta. Everything was going fine. Betta eating. Active. Aware of my presence. Then, after a few days, the water started to get cloudy. I was thinking that it was just gravel dust, and that it's all going to be alright, but I was wrong. A few days later, the water got VERY thick and a little white. There was fuzzy stuff growing on the plants, and that stuff was also getting on the other stuff in the container. The surface of the water looked oily and had stuff on it, and the inside of the water had all kinds of stuff. Fish still eating, but seemed uncomfterble and irritated. So I said "MY GAWD!! IF I DON'T CLEAN THAT SOON, IT'S GOING TO BE A FOREST!" So I took the betta out, took everything out again, and vigorously scrubbed all the decorations with a toothbrush and hot water, washed the gravel with hot water too, and even scrubbed the sides of the container cause it was slippery. When I stirred the gravel, there was so much stuff in it. I don't know how it all got there. After everything was done, I put the aged water in, and then the betta. The water seemed much more clean. Then, a few days later, the water started getting cloudy again. So I bought some Tetra Aquasafe for Aquariums so that when I change the water, which i'm going to have to do a lot now, I don't have to wait 4 days for the water to age. I put some in, and the water turned slightly blue. The cloudiness is still getting thicker and thicker, and it is developing that oily surface layer again. I decided that I have to change the water every day now, in fear that the dreaded fuzzy stuff will return. Today, the water is still cloudy. I put some pellets in, but Mr. Betta won't eat. I took a little less than half the water out with a cup, and put new treated tap water in. Looks just as cloudy as before, but this time, Mr. Betta will eat. And also flare. That is where I am now. Water still clouding. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? What is this stuff? What I should do? I don't want to change the water everyday, but I will if I must. I heard that beneficial bacteria can help prevent this. How do I get that? And also, I heard that sometimes, white cloudiness is called bacteria blooms. Is that correct? MANY MANY thanks to you if you answer this, and have a nice day.
 
Wow, I've never heard of that happening. I have some tap water dechlorinator called Bio-Safe Tap Water Detoxifier and you put in 10 drops per gallon and it gets rid of all the unsafe crap.

Maybe the gravel you got from your friend had some diseases. I'd suggest new gravel. Also, find a LFS in the phone book and call them to ask about the problem. Maybe they'd let you bring in a water sample. Perhaps you're overfeeding him. He may not be eating everything you're giving him and so it's settling at the bottom and causing problems. You mentioned there was alot in the gravel when you cleaned it.

Could you tell how much and how often you feed him?
 
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It sound like your doing everything right. As I've mentioned before I had a female who's water always got cloudy in her new tank.Here's what I did and after a few times...the cloudiness went away. Treat a LARGE HUGE bowl of clean water with your dechlorinator and let it sit a few minutes. Take off your bettas lid and scoop out a LARGE portion of his water,leave about 3" of water on the bottom so he can cruise around without having to leave his bowl,begin slowly pouring in water cup by cup....you'll see debris fly up so have a turkey baster on hand ,squeeze all the air from the baster and hold it with all the air depressed and put it above the debris and release your grip and it will suck up the nasties(this way your not just blowing air into the tank and causing a bigger mess),alternate pouring...sucking up,scooping&dumping...pouring,sucking,scooping & dumping ,it will take awhile but his water will eventually become clear....and your hand will eventually cramp from the baster :lol: J/K (kinda :unsure: ) Now his water is clear AND your keeping some beneficial bacteria,which is a good start. Don't be surprised if he needs this done again in a couple of days....but after about 2 or 3 large water changes & cleanings like this it should STAY clear. And then he'll only need 50-70% changes using this method once a week.Just watch out for the betta when using the baster,they LOOOVE to brush up against it :rolleyes:
Sooooo,your friend has a tank huh? Maybe you should find out when he does his gravel vacs.....after he cleans it run over and grab a handful of his gravel (preferably poop-less that's why I mentioned the gravel vac) and toss it in your bettas tank,that will REALLY give your beneficial bacteria a head start. But make sure his tank is disease free before you introduce it to your bettas tank :)
 

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