Chocolate zebra plec breeding

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When i get my big tank(345gals) i want to stock alot of small growing L number plecs, very much in particular chocolate zebra plecs because i found a lfs that stocks them so i know i can get hold of them unlike zebra plecs which i have no idea where i will be able to get hold of.
I would like to breed chocolate zebra plecs in particular amoungst other types of plecs, i cannot find much info on them though as far as breeding concerned though but i have gathered they are very similar in breeding habits and requirements to normal zebra plecs...I have gathered they breed in tubes/small caves and enjoy a powerful filter current in the tank and you need around 2-3females per male, they grow to 4inchs max but i am not sure on what kind of foods they need-would frozen daphinia, bloodworms, small krill and tubifex surfice?
I have gathered that apart from excellent water quality and a powerful filter current, they like a sand based substrate and randomly piled up rocks and pebbles for them to hide in the crevaces. In my big tank when i get it, the 3 main enviroments i am setting up in it are rocky piled up areas where the filter current is strongest, large bogwood piles making caves for my 2common plecs and 1sailfin plec to sleep in during the day, and large heavily planted areas and also large open expanses of fine white silica sand, which i have in my current tanks at the mo.

Would this make a good breeding enviroment and an advice on a good diet to condition them on for breeding and general feeding?

The tank is going to have very peaceful fish, so far i am having
guppys
mollys
platys
neon tetras
2 common plecs
1 sailfin
6-8 armoured shrimp
Peppered, panda, albino corys
3 clown loachs
8 khuli loachs
hillstream loachs
various other small L no plecs including my current para plec
And perhaps a differnt type of peaceful tetra or 2.

Taking into consideration of the space of the tank, would the chocolate plecs be bothered by the other fish as long has they had enough of they own fav enviroment in the tank?
I would greatly appreiciate any advice to creating the perfect enviroment for these fish and breeding info as i want to become a more serious fish breeder and help increase the numbers of some rare fish to help boost their species numbers :nod: .
Thankyou for your time :) .
 
AllusiveLife said:
If you don't mind me asking, are you a millionaire? :dunno:
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Lol no, just saved up for this tank for a loooong time, i've been saving up for about a year and a bit now. I don't have tons of cash to throw around randomly, so this is why i am doing so much research as i will never be able to get a tank this size ever again as if i mess up, its gonna hurt my wallet bad and that is if its not already anorexic enough after the tank.
If you plan your income well and work hard and don't waste loadsa money on luxuarys and stuff all the time, its not difficult to save up for such a large tank if you have the patience- if you just put £150's aside every month from your job income, by the end up the year you have £1800's to spend on a very decent sized tank :) .
 
Hi tokis...

Take a look at plant catfish - there is an artical about breeding them on there - they are the same a most hypancistrus :)

They will be a lot easier to spawn in a species only tank as they do require some specific perameters - and doing a 25% water change in a 345gal tank with RO ist't exactly pheasable :)

keep the big tank for the others and get a 30 gal for the plecs :)

(we're trying breeding L129s and L134s at the moment and bristlenoses again soon)
 
I looked at the planet catfish zebra plec profile, but they don't say anything about RO water and i don't realy know what it is either- they just say what happens when they plecs spawn but nothing about their params needed apart from tank temp- what water conditions do they need?
They talk alot about zebra plecs, but they say nothing about chocolate zebra plecs and breeding;
zebra plecs grow to 3.2inchs and their stripe patterns are completely different from chocolate zebra plecs and they come from Rio Zingu, Para and Brazil- chocolate zebra plecs grow to 4inchs come from the Rio Tapajos, the Rio Zingu and the Amazon- i think they are completely different fish as to zebra plecs and not just a color variation...Which is why i am concerned about breeding them because they are completely different fish apart from the zebra petterning they have.
 
L307 or L270 they are a compleatly different fish :)
Croysi on here has them / had them (we thought we did but they turned out to be the L129s I refered to above)

If your looking for a nice plec to breed - what about the L333's?

We're working on our L129s on the logic that we will work up to zebras (turned down 3 today due to lacking money :byebye: )

We also now have a pair of L134's (hopefully our new one is a male)

They all come from areas that have low total dissolved solids - TDS
Tap water can be upto 800ppm TDS.
RO water (Reverse Osmosis) gets filtered so well that it's TDS is nearly 0

So in order to trigger spawning the TDS in their tank should be dropped to around 150.
Most have had success doing this over a few water changes using RO at a cooler temp (there is another thing the plecs prefer higher temps around 30º)
the drop in temp and the 'cleaner' water is known to be a 'trigger'

Drop me a PM and I'll reply with a great forum with loads of advise :)
 
oppositearmor said:
for breeding, all i could say is, let them do their thing!
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If they were that simple to breed i wouldn't be doing this thread, they require specific water conditions and stats and enviroment to breed in which is what i am mainly trying to find out here, otherwise i could wait years and get not a single fry.
 
oppositearmor said:
for breeding, all i could say is, let them do their thing!
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not exactly useful...

although the post was buy the guy that gave me a hand ID our 'chocolate zebs' correctly :)
 

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