Can Too Much Co2 Kill Fish

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Hi there,

I have been loosing fish nearly every day for the past week. All my levels are great the only thing I can think of is too much co2. I have a heavily planted 130 litre tank I am running 2x2 litre DIY co2 bottles recipe is for each bottle 2 cups of sugar satchel of bakers yeast and water. Is this too much and can co2 kill fish via overdose.

To my way of thinking too much co2 means less o2 is this assumption correct?

Darren
 
not sure m8 but i would of thought it possible that you can o/d fish but someone else will be able to give you a definitive answer
regards scot :good:
 
yes fish can die from excess c02, over 30ppm is harmful to fish, but you also cant harm fish with a diy co2 kit, i dont think your gonna be going over 30 ppm with that tank size and 2 diy kits.
 
Hello :)

How are you fish behaving? Are they at the top of the tank, any rapid gill movements, if so then thats a sign that they are struggling for air.

How are you diffusing the co2 into your tank? As Fozziebear said, its unlikely you can overdose on DIY kits but I suppose its not impossible? How many Bubbles per second are you getting from your kits combined?

Craig
 
you have to measure your levels that you are injecting, either test for your Kh & ph and refer to the CO2 table in my sig, or get a drop checker.

over 30ppm is harmful to fish

i would have to disagree as i run mine at 35ppm :p . A better answer would to put some fish.
 
it can be too much CO2 or the CO2 has dropped the PH and the fish are dieing from acid water. If you add CO2 you should increase the carbonate hardness (KH) to prevent the PH from dropping.
 
When I overdosed my fish went really sluggish and inactive, had rapid gill movements, and some were gasping at the surface
 
Yeah the effect of too much CO2 should be pretty obvious. Even if some died overnight, the surviving fish should display the symptoms of CO2 poisoning (sedated state, rapid gill movements, discolored gills).

I reckon your fish deaths are caused by something else.
 
it can be too much CO2 or the CO2 has dropped the PH and the fish are dieing from acid water. If you add CO2 you should increase the carbonate hardness (KH) to prevent the PH from dropping.

Incorrect unless water parameters are so low already.

Noone I know ever does anything to maintain the original Ph. Most of us know and accept the Ph will drop by circa 1 Ph. Fact and we live with it as do fish. The same tropical fish are found in several different parameter even as low as 3-4ph. Many fish like Cardinals are found in parameters as low as 4ph.

As per previous comments. 30ppm is the recommended highest but not the highest you can go. Many people go to the 35/40level just to ensure they are past 30ppm. Not necessary as consistency is the main key but not deadly either. Is dangerously close though. Mine is nearer to 25ppm on pressurised.

I also agree with the people above in that A - It is nigh on impossible to overdose from DIY CO2. Not impossible but 2 x DIY kits on a 125 shouldnt be able to do it. B - I agree thats a lot of ingredients. Those bottles should be frothing and overflowing.

Going by the latter are you sure the ingredients arent creeping up the line and into the tank water?

My suggestion for a 2 litre bottle would be : 1 tea cup of yeast, 1 teaspoon of yeast, water up to where the neck bends. Change alternatively weekly. i.e. Weds 1 bottle and Sat the other.

Even with a top notch diffusor 2 bottles will struggle for 30ppm IMO.

CO2 does not mean less oxygen. There is an equilibrium. CO2 is harmful to animal life in the same way it is to us. If there is too much CO2 then when we breathe in Oxygen then we also breathe in CO2. If the fiush are at the surface they will be trying to breathe from the air above the water where this i not CO2 (or it is not as concentrated as in the water) There will still be as much O in the water just that to breathe it they are also having to breathe the CO2 with it at a high level.

AC
 
I managed to kill well over 100 cherry shrimp via too much CO2. I didn't have a drop checker, I measured KH and PH and got a reading 3-4 times the recommended amount! This is only possible with pressurrised CO2. Luckliy shrimp are more sensitive than fish, so at least I caught the problem before I killed the fish as well.
 
I managed to kill well over 100 cherry shrimp via too much CO2. I didn't have a drop checker, I measured KH and PH and got a reading 3-4 times the recommended amount! This is only possible with pressurrised CO2. Luckliy shrimp are more sensitive than fish, so at least I caught the problem before I killed the fish as well.

Shows how inaccurate the PH/KH method of measuring is!!! 3-4 times the recommended amount would have killed all life within a minute. I doubt wether even using pressurised that a ppm of 90-120 is possible. There is only so much gas that water can hold. 45-50 is enough to kill.

AC
 

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