Can A Fit Any More Goldfish Into My Tank?

[Tokis-Phoenix]

So basically i'm going down to my lfs in a bit, and i was thinking about getting a couple more goldfish.
Right now my goldfish are kept in a 125gallon (5ft long, 2ft wide, 2ft high) tank with a large 9-10inch long common pleco; the tank is only a temporary set up for the goldfish until the weather warms up enough for them to be moved into my new 3000gallon pond. I'm expecting the move to take place in february or march as the weather has been very mild over the last 5months- in the last 5months the pond has only frozen over once and that was a couple of months ago and only lasted for a small part of the day. So the move should be soon either way i think.

Currently in the tank there are 4comet goldfish (two of which are shubunkin's) and 3 common goldfish- their sizes (from mouth to tail tip) are as follows;

Orange &white common: 7 3/4inches long
Orange &white comet: 7 1/2inches long
Pale shubunkin comet: 5inches long
Pale gold/orange comet: 4 1/2inches long
Deep orange & white common: 4 inches long
Gold common: 4inches long
Dark shubunkin comet: 4inches long

Could i fit anymore common or comet goldfish into the tank for the time being until they are moved out into the pond? If i got any new goldfish, i expect they'll be no bigger than 2-3inches long.
With the common pleco, he's going to be a permanent resident in the tank, once the goldfish are moved out into the pond i'll probably put platys and gourami's into the tank. He has to stay in the goldfish tank though as he bullied my other two large pleco's constantly- over the months he's been in there though, he's been very happy and in good health and pays the goldfish no attention at all- temp wise the tank is a little on the warm side (never colder than 23 degree's, even with no heater), however common pleco's are actually apparently very suited to the cooler tropical temps. The goldfish have never shown any ill effects to the warmer temps (they always been in perfect health since i've had them and have good growth and activity levels and health appetite) and the tank is very highly oxygenated and has powerful filtration and has never had any water quality issues.
So i think the tank environment is fine, the tank gets a 50% water change once a week plus gets the sand and filters cleaned up too- the question is, is there more space for common/comet goldfish in this (temporary) goldfish tank?

 

[black angel]

I personally think you should wait until the ones in your tank are in the pond.

If you were to get new fish you would practically be putting in infected fish with god knows what. This would mean that your current stock are in danger of catching something and even dying.

You only have about 6 weeks to wait and then you could restock the tank with the new arrivals and quarantine them for a month.

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

I personally think you should wait until the ones in your tank are in the pond.

If you were to get new fish you would practically be putting in infected fish with god knows what. This would mean that your current stock are in danger of catching something and even dying.

You only have about 6 weeks to wait and then you could restock the tank with the new arrivals and quarantine them for a month.

Thanks for the advice black angel- i went and got 3 new goldfish, but i put them in a temporary quarentine tank set up. One is a normal comet (white/very pale grey) and the other two are shubunkins (one is a pale grey and black one, the other is orange with lots of black specs/patches). I think the 2 shubunkins (possibly even all three goldfish) have internal bacteria, so i started treating them on the day that i got them for it with "Anti internal bacteria" by Interpet as well as some small doses of Pimafix and Melafix.
But they are all starting to look better even in the few days i have had them so far, i expect them to be cured by the time i put them in the main goldfish tank in about two weeks- other than the internal bacteria, they just look very underfed so i am feeding them 3-4 small meals a day of frozen foods (mostly artemecia, bloodworms, krill and daphinia), goldfish growth and natural colour pellets and algae wafers and some other goldfish food brands.
The new goldfish are between 3-4inches long, the new grey shubunkin one looks the worst out of the three, but it has a good appetite and activity levels so i am hopeful for it, it already looks like it has put on a tiny amount of weight- i couldn't see how underweight they were when i first got them in the shop, they came out of a big plastic tub of goldfish which i couldn't see through and could only view from above and they were quickly packaged once they were out. But i'm still happy with them as internal bacteria is simple to treat and i have a whole range of meds and foods at my disposal to get them back up to good health .
I think i'll use the main goldfish tank as a quarentine tank when all the goldfish are moved out into the pond in (hopefully) one or two months time, i still need to get the pump/filter set up in the pond but i have all the right stuff to do it, it just needs to stop raining so i can get out and do some more work on the pond/garden lol. Some people i know apparently have a really overstocked pond and they are planning to rehome as many of their fish as posible (i'm assuming they are koi or goldfish) so once the filter is set up in my pond i will go over there and see what fish i can take .

 

[black angel]

Sounds good Tokis.
Want to see pics of the new ones once you get a chance

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Sounds good Tokis.
Want to see pics of the new ones once you get a chance

Sure, i'll see if i can get some pics of them in a moment if i can find my camera

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Ok here's some quick pics i took just now, sorry they aren't that sharp, i'll try and get some clearer pics later on maybe .
Here's the white/very pale grey comet- this goldfish looks by far the healthiest out of the 3, but has had a little white stringy poop so i'm treating it for internal bacteria anyway;

Next is the orange and black shubunkin- it does look quite underweight, but is regaining its weight quickly so i think it was probably just mostly a case of not been fed enough food (in fact i've never seen the people who run the lfs feed the fish anything, ever);

Now this is the new pale grey and black shubunkin, and it does look really underweight- plus its got white stringy poop. I havn't seen a goldfish this underweight for a long time, however, it does have a good healthy appetite and it is swimming about with the other goldfish so its not all doom and gloom, i have hope for this little goldy ;

But when it comes down to it, all three fish could do with fattening up a bit, here's a pic i took just now of my huge (and healthy) orange and white common goldfish as a comparison to these new goldies;

 

[black angel]

That third one does look really underfed and fingers crossed theres nothing sinister going on with it.
The white stringy poo could well be because of the stress but if after a week or two of heavy feeding and they arent gaining weight to look at internal worms though i think i would be treating them for that just to be safe.
I love the first one, very pretty.

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

That third one does look really underfed and fingers crossed theres nothing sinister going on with it.
The white stringy poo could well be because of the stress but if after a week or two of heavy feeding and they arent gaining weight to look at internal worms though i think i would be treating them for that just to be safe.
I love the first one, very pretty.

Yeah internal worms/parasites is my main fear, its the only desease i don't have a med for, but so far the symptoms of the goldfish seem to point more to internal bacteria- i'll go buy some internal parasite meds anyway though just to be on the safe side, if the third goldfish in particular hasn't had any real noticeable weight gain within the next couple of weeks i'll suspect it has internal parasites.