cafai0627
New Member
Hi everyone,
I'm new to the forum and consider myself an intermediate fish keeper for the past 15 years. So i recently changed my koi 65 gallon set up to a community tank. I purchased 5 german blue rams (full grown 3inches) that were housed with some angels (6 waiting to pair off and return the other 4 2-4 inches), 9 schwartze cory cats ( full grown), 4 clown loaches (5-6 inches each), a pair of blue 3spot gourami ( 4 inch male 3 inch female), 3 honey gouramis, 2 snowball plecs (L102) surpsingly very active ones, 1 L 177 gold nugget, 4 swords, 7 long fin danios, 28 neon tetras - i know they are natural food for angels, but i saw a huge 300 gallon set up at the LFS with 7 massive angels around 8-10 inches in height (maybe on steroids) with school of tetras....and they don't bother them, so i thought i'll try, anyways the angels now are too small and slow to catch them. Sadly enough the 4 of the rams died, the dominant one kept bullying and i just think they were out competed for food and i think i ended up with 4m and 1f, and b/c my water is quite hard. The tank is heavily planted with swords, java fern, and lots of wood work and caves and slates. Anyways it was sad, but since they were such nice looking fish i was determined to successfully keep them. The 1 left now is doing wonderful and is very active, i had him for about a month now.
I decided to set up another 30 gallon tank using filter media from the 65 gallon - i always have more than enough filters for in case of emergencies, so i only let the 30g tank run for about a week before i added new fish. In the 30g i have 4 platys, 10 black neons, and 3 newly purchased 1 inch ( and this time i got 1m 2f). The tank is set up with 1 quarter gravel, 3/4 tahitian black sand, with some drift & bog wood and java ferns. Anyways this was only 3 days ago and both females spawed today and the male did fertilize them and all 3 are fanning them and caring for it- i took pics, but had to go to work, so i'll upload for you to all see a little later. Is this odd? Or is it that they are too young to know what they are doing?? They spawed on the driftwood. I don't intend on raising the young becuase i just spent a lot of money in the past couple of months, I just plan on letting nature take its course, and hopefully i can get like 2 out of the batch that will survive till adult hood. So i guess my questions are - what should i do? And if anyone of you heard of 3 parents? The last time I owned, well my brother, a cichlid that breeded was 10 years ago, and those were pink convicts, and from what i can remember they are very easy to breed, its actually hard to stop them.
Experience between and my brother:
( 1 2 - 2.5 ft silver arowana housed with 1ft albino oscar, 1ft red devil (kept on laying eggs), and 40inch common plec housed in a 65 long (48X18) for about 6 years and were sold back to LFS b/c my bro went to med school.
Fancy goldfish, kois, convicts, jack dempseys, pirranahs, and probably some i'm forgetting. Anyways you are all probably thinkin what size tank and all.....my largest was the one mentioned above 65 gallon long 48X18. After my bro sold off the fish and the tank but kept the stand, i decided to pick back the hobby after a 2 yr hiatus, and just bought any 65 gallon in 2000, which is now my current community tank with the angels, but stupid me it turned out to be too small for my stand ( tank 36X18X24 inch deep). I plan on getting a 110 gallon that will fit on that stand next year and buy a stand that is right for my current 65 gallon.
My Bro and I were dedicated in maintenance of the tanks, even though the arowana tank had such huge species, but they grew out beautifully. His only failure was a discuss set up that never worked - somehow they all died, i guess not the right water conditions.
And my failure, is with the current 65 where the 4 rams died, i also had 2 gold nugs die on me too, but the one i have now is doing well. After scrolling through the forum, i'm aware i might run into problems with the current big tank set up, but i'm keeping it for now - if it gets dangerous in there, i'll rehome some of them. Yeah sorry for the long post and getting off topic, but back to the subject, blue rams and breeding behaviour, please share your success/failure stories!
Thanks,
Paul
I'm new to the forum and consider myself an intermediate fish keeper for the past 15 years. So i recently changed my koi 65 gallon set up to a community tank. I purchased 5 german blue rams (full grown 3inches) that were housed with some angels (6 waiting to pair off and return the other 4 2-4 inches), 9 schwartze cory cats ( full grown), 4 clown loaches (5-6 inches each), a pair of blue 3spot gourami ( 4 inch male 3 inch female), 3 honey gouramis, 2 snowball plecs (L102) surpsingly very active ones, 1 L 177 gold nugget, 4 swords, 7 long fin danios, 28 neon tetras - i know they are natural food for angels, but i saw a huge 300 gallon set up at the LFS with 7 massive angels around 8-10 inches in height (maybe on steroids) with school of tetras....and they don't bother them, so i thought i'll try, anyways the angels now are too small and slow to catch them. Sadly enough the 4 of the rams died, the dominant one kept bullying and i just think they were out competed for food and i think i ended up with 4m and 1f, and b/c my water is quite hard. The tank is heavily planted with swords, java fern, and lots of wood work and caves and slates. Anyways it was sad, but since they were such nice looking fish i was determined to successfully keep them. The 1 left now is doing wonderful and is very active, i had him for about a month now.
I decided to set up another 30 gallon tank using filter media from the 65 gallon - i always have more than enough filters for in case of emergencies, so i only let the 30g tank run for about a week before i added new fish. In the 30g i have 4 platys, 10 black neons, and 3 newly purchased 1 inch ( and this time i got 1m 2f). The tank is set up with 1 quarter gravel, 3/4 tahitian black sand, with some drift & bog wood and java ferns. Anyways this was only 3 days ago and both females spawed today and the male did fertilize them and all 3 are fanning them and caring for it- i took pics, but had to go to work, so i'll upload for you to all see a little later. Is this odd? Or is it that they are too young to know what they are doing?? They spawed on the driftwood. I don't intend on raising the young becuase i just spent a lot of money in the past couple of months, I just plan on letting nature take its course, and hopefully i can get like 2 out of the batch that will survive till adult hood. So i guess my questions are - what should i do? And if anyone of you heard of 3 parents? The last time I owned, well my brother, a cichlid that breeded was 10 years ago, and those were pink convicts, and from what i can remember they are very easy to breed, its actually hard to stop them.
Experience between and my brother:
( 1 2 - 2.5 ft silver arowana housed with 1ft albino oscar, 1ft red devil (kept on laying eggs), and 40inch common plec housed in a 65 long (48X18) for about 6 years and were sold back to LFS b/c my bro went to med school.
Fancy goldfish, kois, convicts, jack dempseys, pirranahs, and probably some i'm forgetting. Anyways you are all probably thinkin what size tank and all.....my largest was the one mentioned above 65 gallon long 48X18. After my bro sold off the fish and the tank but kept the stand, i decided to pick back the hobby after a 2 yr hiatus, and just bought any 65 gallon in 2000, which is now my current community tank with the angels, but stupid me it turned out to be too small for my stand ( tank 36X18X24 inch deep). I plan on getting a 110 gallon that will fit on that stand next year and buy a stand that is right for my current 65 gallon.
My Bro and I were dedicated in maintenance of the tanks, even though the arowana tank had such huge species, but they grew out beautifully. His only failure was a discuss set up that never worked - somehow they all died, i guess not the right water conditions.
And my failure, is with the current 65 where the 4 rams died, i also had 2 gold nugs die on me too, but the one i have now is doing well. After scrolling through the forum, i'm aware i might run into problems with the current big tank set up, but i'm keeping it for now - if it gets dangerous in there, i'll rehome some of them. Yeah sorry for the long post and getting off topic, but back to the subject, blue rams and breeding behaviour, please share your success/failure stories!
Thanks,
Paul