Breeding Angels & Eggs

[jackrmee]

I have a pair of breeding halfblack angels which were in a tank by themselves, until a friend of mine had a leak in her tank so I adopted some of her fish.
There are 3 Tiger Barbs and 2 Guppies.
They are now all in the tank together. Everything seems fine but I can see there are a lot of small white eggs on a leaf which Mummy Angel is guarding by nipping anything that comes near.
How can I ensure the eggs are ok and if they hatch ok will the other fish eat the fry?
I have another tank but it is not set up yet. Im not sure I will have enough time to get the water to the right state for the fish. Maybe I need one of those nursery pen things to put in the tank?
I am not sure how long the eggs have been there but it's surely no longer than a week.

I also have a piece of slate which when I moved, looks as if there are 3 or 4 small blobs of jelly with lots of little eggs inside. These look different from the eggs the Angel is guarding. I didnt inspect them properly as I didnt want to upset anything.

I would be grateful of any advice as I have never come across this before.

Thanks in advance.
G

 

[jacko32]

are the eggs wriggling or brown i just a few days ago removed some angels eggs from my main tank when they were at the wriggler stage there now free swimming i have them in a 5ltr storage box floating in the main tank just with a small air stone i removed them using a sringe and air tube

 

[jackrmee]

No they are not wriggling. They are small and white. Both parents are guarding them and the mother seems to be rubbing her underbelly against them.

So I should wait until they are wriggling and then remove them?

 

[jacko32]

No they are not wriggling. They are small and white. Both parents are guarding them and the mother seems to be rubbing her underbelly against them.

So I should wait until they are wriggling and then remove them?

if there all white there no good they havent been fertilized if they have been there a few days you would be best just to remove them this will get rid of the aggression in the tank

p.s the jelly eggs on the slate are snails eggs

 

[jackrmee]

Well, I dont need any more snails

Im not sure how long the Angel eggs have been there so I will wait a few days incase they get fertilized.

Thanks so much for your advice.

G

 

[jacko32]

Well, I dont need any more snails

Im not sure how long the Angel eggs have been there so I will wait a few days incase they get fertilized.

Thanks so much for your advice.

G

they should be a clearish brown colour if there a solid white there no good

 

[jackrmee]

Well, I dont need any more snails

Im not sure how long the Angel eggs have been there so I will wait a few days incase they get fertilized.

Thanks so much for your advice.

G

they should be a clearish brown colour if there a solid white there no good

Yes, I can see that most of them are an almost transparent off white with 1 or 2 solid white ones here and there.

 

[jacko32]

Well, I dont need any more snails

Im not sure how long the Angel eggs have been there so I will wait a few days incase they get fertilized.

Thanks so much for your advice.

G

they should be a clearish brown colour if there a solid white there no good

Yes, I can see that most of them are an almost transparent off white with 1 or 2 solid white ones here and there.

sounds prommissing keep an eye out for them starting wriggling it looke like there blowing in the current then you can do either what i did and suck them into a syringe or you can leave them they will get eaten though either by the parents or by other tank mates!

these are mine free swimming as of yesterday morning i have them floating in a storage box
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[jackrmee]

are the eggs wriggling or brown i just a few days ago removed some angels eggs from my main tank when they were at the wriggler stage there now free swimming i have them in a 5ltr storage box floating in the main tank just with a small air stone i removed them using a sringe and air tube

I will remove them and try to keep them. I have a storage box and a small airstone. How do you get the box to float?
What do I feed them? I have TetraMin baby.

I just noticed the Female "pecking" at the eggs and it seems there are less than yesterday. Maybe she is eating them?

 

[Tolak]

The smallest tank I've used for hatching angels is a 2.5 gallon, they need bigger accommodations in a couple of weeks. In a 5 gallon you can leave them be for about 3 weeks tops, a 10 gallon gets you about a month. Freshly hatched baby brine shrimp is the only consistent way to get a decent survival rate, you will need some tank space for growout, 1/2 gallon for dime body size, 1 gallon for nickel body size. A small spawn is 200 eggs, this will give you some idea of what you need as far as equipment.

The parents will pick off the infertile eggs, parent raising in a community tank is very rare, the spawn either gets eaten by the tankmates or the parents.

 

[jacko32]

are the eggs wriggling or brown i just a few days ago removed some angels eggs from my main tank when they were at the wriggler stage there now free swimming i have them in a 5ltr storage box floating in the main tank just with a small air stone i removed them using a sringe and air tube

I will remove them and try to keep them. I have a storage box and a small airstone. How do you get the box to float?
What do I feed them? I have TetraMin baby.

I just noticed the Female "pecking" at the eggs and it seems there are less than yesterday. Maybe she is eating them?

its wedged between the support struts i have just been using the liquifry for egg laying fish it seems to be causing micro organizms in the water that the fry are eating once there big enough i will be putting them in my 15 gallon grow on tank

 

[jackrmee]

Oh dear, I just woke up, put the light on in the tank and saw a barb eating the eggs. The parents were no longer guarding them and seemed to be resting under the slate.

It looks such a sad situation. It makes me think of Finding Nemo when they only have 1 egg left

Oh well, maybe I should have taken them out sooner. Never mind, next time I will be better prepared.
How often are they likely to spawn?

Thanks very much for your help though people