Boiled rocks for ADF's future 1 gallon tank

[Discomafia]

OK, so I've boiled some rocks and seashells in water and am leaving them to just sit in the water at the moment. I read somewhere on this forum that it helps to release the salts and other minerals that are harmful... This if for my 1 gallon tank which I'll be filling with an ADF (or two) in a few days time... And I've got a few questions for you all.

Firstly, can I use the same water that I'm soaking the rocks in for my tank, or should I just get some tap water and leave it out in the open for a couple of days to de-clorinate it? Also, should I put in a few drops of that water conditioner stuff that neutralises the clorine into the water? Before the froggies are in the tank I mean.

Next, can I get any plants for the tank and what are the best plants to get? Can I get a snail and one of those sucker fishes in the tank as well? And can I just get one ADF or do they do better in pairs?

And lastly, what is the best substrate to use with ADF's? I was thinking of play sand, is that a good idea? And how many inches of substrate will I need? Important for the plants (if any) as well...

So yea, appreciate it, thanks in advance.

Cheers,

 

[The-Wolf]

OK, so I've boiled some rocks and seashells in water and am leaving them to just sit in the water at the moment. I read somewhere on this forum that it helps to release the salts and other minerals that are harmful... This if for my 1 gallon tank which I'll be filling with an ADF (or two) in a few days time... And I've got a few questions for you all.

Firstly, can I use the same water that I'm soaking the rocks in for my tank, or should I just get some tap water and leave it out in the open for a couple of days to de-clorinate it? Also, should I put in a few drops of that water conditioner stuff that neutralises the clorine into the water? Before the froggies are in the tank I mean.

Next, can I get any plants for the tank and what are the best plants to get? Can I get a snail and one of those sucker fishes in the tank as well? And can I just get one ADF or do they do better in pairs?

And lastly, what is the best substrate to use with ADF's? I was thinking of play sand, is that a good idea? And how many inches of substrate will I need? Important for the plants (if any) as well...

So yea, appreciate it, thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Personally
I would not put seashells in a fresh water tank.

no I wouldn't use the same water that the rocks are in,
use tap water and follow the cycle advice that is plentiful on this forum.
plants; well thats a personal choice and as for the best,
different strokes for different folks. I like cardamine lyrata. Easy to keep.

there are many types of "snail" and "suckerfish" do some research and find out what their requirements are.

I have no experiance with ADF's whatever they are but using sand as a substrate, no more than 2" so as not to cause excessive build up of bad gases
do a search on this forum for sand. HTH

 

[Phantom Thief]

Perhaps you could use java ferns for plants.

Seashells will increase a tank's pH.

The most you can put in there is 2 ADFs. No fish will do well in a 1g with 2 frogs.

P.T.

 

[Discomafia]

Personally
I would not put seashells in a fresh water tank.

no I wouldn't use the same water that the rocks are in,
use tap water and follow the cycle advice that is plentiful on this forum.
plants; well thats a personal choice and as for the best,
different strokes for different folks. I like cardamine lyrata. Easy to keep.

there are many types of "snail" and "suckerfish" do some research and find out what their requirements are.

I have no experiance with ADF's whatever they are but using sand as a substrate, no more than 2" so as not to cause excessive build up of bad gases
do a search on this forum for sand. HTH

Thanks for the reply man.

But why not put a seashell in? It's only one and I was reading up on cleaning rocks and stuff in the DIY forum and they said that as long as it was properly cleant and all that, no problemo... Also I've had this shell for a few years now, and it used to be in my tank with my bala shark and aussie rainbow.

And should I follow the same cycle as I would when doing a cycle for fishes?

Thanks for the info on substrate. Will 2" be enough for the plants to grow?

Cheers,

 

[Discomafia]

Perhaps you could use java ferns for plants.

Seashells will increase a tank's pH.

The most you can put in there is 2 ADFs. No fish will do well in a 1g with 2 frogs.

P.T.

First of all, you're from Malaysia?

Apa khabar then... Orang Selangor sini. Studying in Canada now tho' finishing my degree...

Anyways, will 2" be enough for the ferns? Any other plants that I can use as well? Why not seashells? I've boiled it 2 or 3 times now already cos it used to be my other tank, and like mentioned in my last post I read that it was alright as long as it was cleaned properly...

And since you said that no fish will do well in a 1g w/ 2 ADFs, can I just get one ADF and one of those bottom dweller sucker fishes? Don't really know the name, but I've seen a lot of aquariums with them as they're good for cleaning up the tank... Don't want to get a "real" fish anyway, cos' I know that it'd surely be overcrowded.

Also any idea on water changes? I read 15 to 20% twice a month, but can someone verify that. If I'm not mistaken I know that they pollute the water, thus the idea for the sucker-fish. And no need for an air pump right, as they surface to get air...

Cheers,

 

[Phantom Thief]

A shell consists of calcium carbonate. Calcium carbonate is an alkali, and there is no way to wash it off. It is completely different from rocks.

It is impractical to cycle a 1g tank, it is easier to just do water changes.

2 inches should be enough for most plants.

Good luck mate!

P.T.

 

[Discomafia]

A shell consists of calcium carbonate. Calcium carbonate is an alkali, and there is no way to wash it off. It is completely different from rocks.

It is impractical to cycle a 1g tank, it is easier to just do water changes.

2 inches should be enough for most plants.

Good luck mate!

P.T.

So the sea-shell is a no-no then. Aight...

As for the cycling I was thinking the same thing too, but danio2004 posted otherwise so I thought... So just let the water get stale for a couple of days, then a few drops of some anti-chlorine water conditoner?

And when I get the ADFs should I float them around in their bags in the tank so that they can adjust to the temperature or can I just pop them in? I think the former is prefered, right?

And about water changes, can I trust 15-20% twice a month, cos' that's the only numbers I've managed to find on this subject...

Thanks for all your help guys.

Cheers,

 

[Phantom Thief]

Yo kawan. Ini pun orang Selangor. Nasib baik betul kau ni, ADF kat sini tak dapat cari!!!

Back to English now (hem hem). For a 1 gallon tank it would be better to do a larger water change. I'd say 50%, thats what i used to do for my bettas. Just make sure the water temperature difference isnt too big.

Yup, you should float em!

Let the water settle, and then add anti chloramine, not anti chlorine. Chlorine evaporates real quick. Chloramine doesnt, so you should add that instead.

Also, replying to you last post, no you shouldnt get an oto. It is true they are teeny, but they wouldnt be very happy in such a small tank. I am sure you'll be happy enough with the 2 ADFs.

Semoga berjaya!
P.T.

 

[Discomafia]

Yo kawan. Ini pun orang Selangor. Nasib baik betul kau ni, ADF kat sini tak dapat cari!!!

Back to English now (hem hem). For a 1 gallon tank it would be better to do a larger water change. I'd say 50%, thats what i used to do for my bettas. Just make sure the water temperature difference isnt too big.

Yup, you should float em!

Let the water settle, and then add anti chloramine, not anti chlorine. Chlorine evaporates real quick. Chloramine doesnt, so you should add that instead.

Also, replying to you last post, no you shouldnt get an oto. It is true they are teeny, but they wouldnt be very happy in such a small tank. I am sure you'll be happy enough with the 2 ADFs.

Semoga berjaya!
P.T.

Haha, OK lah kawan, terima kasih ya kerana tolong saya banyak. Sudah dekat tiga tahun di negeri orang putih ni, rindu cuaca panas, makan sedap, B.M pun makin teruk... Nasib baik ada jiran-bilik dari Ipoh dan Sg. Hehe. Oh yea, sebelum lupa, dari Sungai Buloh ni...

Anyways, so 50% twice a month? Got ya...

http/tetra-fish.com/catalog/product.aspx?id=73

That's the stuff I'm using, covers chloramines as well. Good thing I just checked... And float em' for 1/2 an hour cukup kan?

And is oto the name of the fish I'm talking about? Well OK lah then, just stick to the 2 ADFs...

Sekali lagi, terima kasih.

Cheers,

 

[Phantom Thief]

Ini orang perak, pergi sana-sini, sekarang kat Subang Jaya.

And 50% a week lah buddy!

Twice a month is way too little for a small tank.

Ask anything you're not sure on, its better to ask now than to learn when your frogs are dead. I am also happy that those 2 lucky ADFs wil get a good owner like you

P.T.

 

[Discomafia]

Ini orang perak, pergi sana-sini, sekarang kat Subang Jaya.

And 50% a week lah buddy!

Twice a month is way too little for a small tank.

Ask anything you're not sure on, its better to ask now than to learn when your frogs are dead. I am also happy that those 2 lucky ADFs wil get a good owner like you

P.T.

Ah orang Perak rupanya... Ada lagi orang Malaysia kat sini kah?

And no wonder la, thought surely dirty the water, how come only change 50% twice a month. Nasib baik ada banyak orang baik-hati di sini seperti kau, boleh tunjuk ajar sikit...

And how much are ADFs there man? Never bothered to check when I was back... Never really into this really, just started this year. But yea man, this forum's really useful, so many people willing to help out a beginner like me...

Thanks for your time guys.

Cheers,

EDIT - And how come you belum tidur? Minat Euro 04' kah? Czech and Denmark later on.

 

[Phantom Thief]

There aint no ADFs here mate!

there are only African Clawed Frogs, which grow much larger.

Also, before i forget, are you sure the guys you are getting are ADFs? ACFs look similar when they are small, but grow much bigger and are very aggressive.

If you need help on identifying, i'd say Inchworm knows the most. Just send her a personal message.

P.T.

 

[Discomafia]

Oh yea man, read too many horror stories about orang ingat it's ADF, rupa-rupanya is ACF... They say many people at the lfs mislable them and hard to tell when they're young, but I know what it looks like. Also ACF grows to be bigger, or so I've read.

I found these few links to be really helpful, especially the 2nd one which is about tellin the difference between ACF and ADF. Common mistake, but at least now I won't make it. Good question to be asking in the first place...

http/allaboutfrogs.org/info/mypets/dwarfs.html

http/allaboutfrogs.org/info/species/clawedordwarf.html

http/www.repticzone.com/caresheets/77.html

Cheers,

 

[Discomafia]

Hey kawan one more thing, can I put in a few snails as well? Nothing wrong with that right? Semangat patriotic lah sikit, so maybe if can I'll get a Malaysian Trumpet Snail.

http/www.fishpalace.org/M_tuberculata.html

But I know they reproduce very fast, so I'll be sure to keep an eye out for that... Anyone got any recommendations on any other types of snails?

Or is is just not a good idea?

Also when should I plant my plants? After I leave it to get 'stale' after a couple of days or on the first day I start the process?

One last thing, do I still need to use the anti-chlorine/chloramine solution when I'm leaving it to get 'stale' or just add it whenever I do water changes?

Cheers,

 

[Phantom Thief]

If you have anti chlorine/chloramine, just add it to the water and it can be used already. I dont see any masalah with the snails except maybe they will makan your plants. I just put my plants in straight away .

P.T.