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i have noticed my two bichirs both occasionally gulp air at the surface anyone elses do this??
anyone know why they do it?
they also fart a lot :lol: a few little bubbles
 
i have noticed my two bichirs both occasionally gulp air at the surface anyone elses do this??
anyone know why they do it?
they also fart a lot :lol: a few little bubbles

how big are they ?

some types of polys when they are young have exturnal gills and breath alot more air at that stage of life
 
they are delhezi and both about 6 inches

oh. i have a 7" delhezi and 2 albino senagel ones, they do occasionaly gulp air, its the same for gars, they have developed a way of living in very dark un healthy water by gulping air at the surface, i notice when i do a waterchange they stop, maybe its a sign telling you to make a quik waterchange :)
 
Bichirs do have functioning lungs and need a gulp of air from time to time-Anne
 
Bichirs do have functioning lungs and need a gulp of air from time to time-Anne

isnt it called an labiriynth organ or something ?
betta's and gormai's have them, thats how they can build bubble nests.
note. bichirs DO NOT.
 
isnt it called an labiriynth organ or something ?
No bichirs have functioning lungs
 
Indeed.

The default condition for bony fish (everything from birchirs to pufferfish) is to have lungs, unless they've lost them. All the basal bony fishes (i.e., those that lived ~350 million years ago) had lungs. The hypothesis is that bony fish evolved in habitats with an unreliable oxygen level, so needed to use air. Whether this was a brackish or freshwater habitat is still debated, I believe.

As they evolved, some retained the lungs (giving rise to lungfish for example, and from them the ancestors of land vertebrates like ourselves). A few on the "main line" to the teleosts (advanced fishes) kept their lungs, too. The bichirs for one, and also the garpike and the bowfin. In garpike and bowfins the lungs are also used as a bouyancy aid, but remain connected to the 'windpipe'. Eventually, the lung becomes a swim bladder, but in lower teleosts, such as catfish, herring, salmon, etc., it is connected to the windpipe and needs to be pumped-up with air (to some degree or another).

Only advanced fishes have completely isolated the swim bladder from the windpipe, and are able to pump up the swim bladder using only gas secreted from the blood. These are things like perciform fish (cichlids, etc.). Hence, when advanced fishes need to breathe air, they need an alternative to the lung, such as the labyrinth organ.

Paradoxically from our perspective, the lungs we rely on are the primitive condition for bony fishes!

Cheers,

Neale

PS. cane76 -- Bichirs breathe in through their mouths, and simulaneously the old air goes out the gills. Watch closely and you'll see this happen. They don't "fart" it out. Some fishes do do that, mostly things like catfish and loaches that breathe air by swallowing it and abosrbing the oxygen across the intenstines. So why your birchirs are "farting" is a mystery to me, and it doesn't sound like normal behaviour to me.

bichirs have functioning lungs
 

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