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simonbrown403

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hi all i didnt want to do it but i,ve finaly given in into betty madness lol

my wife got a betty a wile back, and i found myself slowly atracted to them.

i,ve made myself a betty tank with 3 compartments, and got myself 2 males and 1 females with an aim to breed them (sorry about the pics) can anyone point me to one or two good sites that i can find out about breeding and stuff :D

PS tank has a cover on :D

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I don't know too much about betta breeding (about to start myself) but I would suggest a lid on that tank - some of my friends bettas have been known to jump!

I also thought you should have more females to males - some experts around here will correct me if I'm wrong.

Good luck!
 
Hmm...to breed, you need only one male and one female. Males and females should never be kept in an undivided tank together. (My computer won't let me see your pics and boxman's comment sounds like they might be together? Although it says the tank is divided....) Otherwise, ratio of males to females is irrelevant.

Anyway, a great site for breeding is bettatalk.com. She is a good breeder with excellent advice. Also, if you look at the top of this forum, in the links section, they have some wonderful links on breeding bettas. I suggest you read up in these areas, then if you have any questions, post on here. Most breeders are more than happy to help with advice, if you've done some good reading first.
 
That looks like a really nice tank set-up! is that a 10g? I'm sure your Betta babies LOVE it.

I can't really tell from the pics... what tail types are your Bettas? The aquamarine boy is really gorgeous! He looks like a Veil-Tail from the pic, but I cant totally tell??

A GREAT website all about Betta keeping is http://www.bettatalk.com :thumbs: I got my Bettas from them! There are tons of websites out there, try Googling 'Betta Breeding'.. you can also check out TFF's pinned threads about breeding, and do a search on the boards. LOTS of awesome info.

^_^ I've never heard anyone call them Betty's.. LOL.. but I guess each to his own!


Boxman - it doesn't matter about the number of males/females, because the tank is divided. IF the tank wasn't divided, he should only have females in there that have been properly introduced. Having 2 males and 1 female is fine for breeding, too.... he probably intends to only breed the female to one of the males. hopefully ;). I'm breeding my pair (1 male and 1 female), but we also have a pet boy.
 
the tank is a 60ltr/13gal devided into three sections each sealed and holds 20 ltr/4.4gals i have a sponge filter in each.

and it dose have a cover, just wasnt on for the pic
my wife chose one male and i chose the other becarse we are going to do it together lol

thanks for links :D
 
http://www.bettatalk.com
http://www.bettacave.com
http://www.nazarenenexus.com/betta_ed/index.htm
http://www.bettysplendens.com/articles/home.asp
http://vanriel.myadsl.nl/BT-AABtailtypegenetics.htm

When you've read all that and understand it all well, then breed if you'd still like to. :)

One note about what some people may say, though. Some believe that a person should breed Veiltails first, as "practice" for breeding the different tail types. I'd sincerely advise against it. Just go for whatever tail type---Halfmoon, Plakat, Delta, Super Delta, Crowntail---that you'd like to breed, and do that.
 
red-devil0602 said:
those look alot like veiltails to me, so unless you already have a buyer i wouldn't breed them as they are hard to sell on as they are 10 a penny
i have a few people that would take them, if not il give them to lfs, its just something to keep me ocupied while i wait for my discus, my male is not fertalizing the eggs and eating them, so il waiting fo a male out of my young , or il buy one after our wedding. :D(about 6 to 8 months or sep oct if my wife will let me spend that amount of money)

wow i can see the atraction just been looling at some of them sites thare some realy vivid colours and patterns, i,m building a fishroom they just might be room ummmm!
 
A note on finding homes for veiltail babies -- it's a lot harder than you'd think. You can easily have 100+ fry to find homes for, and most LFS can't take anywhere near that many at a time and won't take any that aren't adult size (about 6 months old.) That would be a looooot of separate jars to clean if you had to keep them for 6 months :/
If you're willing to do that then go for it, but otherwise get a plakat/delta/crowntail pair whose fry would be much easier to home, or cull fry when they're young so you don't have as many to find homes for
 
boxman said:
I don't know too much about betta breeding (about to start myself) but I would suggest a lid on that tank - some of my friends bettas have been known to jump!

I also thought you should have more females to males - some experts around here will correct me if I'm wrong.

Good luck!
his tank is covered!
 
Synirr said:
A note on finding homes for veiltail babies -- it's a lot harder than you'd think. You can easily have 100+ fry to find homes for, and most LFS can't take anywhere near that many at a time and won't take any that aren't adult size (about 6 months old.) That would be a looooot of separate jars to clean if you had to keep them for 6 months :/
If you're willing to do that then go for it, but otherwise get a plakat/delta/crowntail pair whose fry would be much easier to home, or cull fry when they're young so you don't have as many to find homes for
i,ve preparing mtself for the onslort already lol, i have a load of large jars and tuperware boxes ready in the shead for the males and i,m building a shelfing unit for them all now, i have 3 30ltr tanks for growing on and the females

a quick question what time do you seperate the male and females, how old are they usually before you can tell the diffrence.

thanks to all for the advice, its nice to get it first hand from exsperenced people. :D
 
Simon, usually it depends on the fry individually when you can tell the difference. By 2-3 months, you can tell...some will be bigger,some will be smaller. As for separating, most people start to jar males as soon as they see aggression in the larger boys. Then again,some people jar all of the fry individually at 2-3 months. It depends on your preference, the size of the fry, number of fry, etc.

I also wanted to add on to the Veil-tail issue... VT's do not breed true. You can get any odd combination of colors and sizes and patterns (mostly multi-colored results). For some one who really wants to get into breeding and spend that much money,you might as well go big, get a couple of super nice well-matched breeding pairs from a reputable private breeder and possibly get some MONEY out of the breeding. You probably won't cut even being a hobby breeder either way,but it is probably more fun for you to be able to sell some babies for more than 5 cents each... when you're putting SO much effort into this, you might as well plan out the breedings and pairings very carefully and actually be able to predict and plan the colors and fins that will result.

Also,another question,do you know the ages of your breeders? Ideally, Bettas should be bred between 6 and 12 months. Some people say 4 months, but I've heard that Bettas that young tend to eat the eggs or not pick them up to put them in the bubblenest. 12 months is the absolute max. If you got your Bettas from a random LPS/LFS, you really don't have a way of knowing the true age of your Bettas. They could be too young or too old and they come from lines and strains unknown to you.
 
My first batch of fry HAD to be jarred at 6 weeks, because they were tearing into each other. I couldn't figure out who was doing it, so I jarred the whole lot of them.

On the other hand, I currently have 7 week old fry who are still together and behaving fine together.
 
splashluff said:
Simon, usually it depends on the fry individually when you can tell the difference. By 2-3 months, you can tell...some will be bigger,some will be smaller. As for separating, most people start to jar males as soon as they see aggression in the larger boys. Then again,some people jar all of the fry individually at 2-3 months. It depends on your preference, the size of the fry, number of fry, etc.

I also wanted to add on to the Veil-tail issue... VT's do not breed true. You can get any odd combination of colors and sizes and patterns (mostly multi-colored results). For some one who really wants to get into breeding and spend that much money,you might as well go big, get a couple of super nice well-matched breeding pairs from a reputable private breeder and possibly get some MONEY out of the breeding. You probably won't cut even being a hobby breeder either way,but it is probably more fun for you to be able to sell some babies for more than 5 cents each... when you're putting SO much effort into this, you might as well plan out the breedings and pairings very carefully and actually be able to predict and plan the colors and fins that will result.

Also,another question,do you know the ages of your breeders? Ideally, Bettas should be bred between 6 and 12 months. Some people say 4 months, but I've heard that Bettas that young tend to eat the eggs or not pick them up to put them in the bubblenest. 12 months is the absolute max. If you got your Bettas from a random LPS/LFS, you really don't have a way of knowing the true age of your Bettas. They could be too young or too old and they come from lines and strains unknown to you.
Thanks for the good info. :cool:

I,ve been thinking along the same lines myself, after seeing some of the wonderfull colours and varietys on the net WOW!!!!!

I,m building a fish house this summer for my discus and i.m thinking of having a propper do at bettes, i might give my dad and and a mate the 2 fish i,ve got, and buy a nice pair.

thanks again (i,m back on the road again :rofl: )
 

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