Better Pics Of Fins

[drewry]

started a new thread with better pics thought it would be best
had to put them in a glass to get better quality pics

fish 1

fish 2 is the worst

need to know if its bactarial or fin rot so i can treat propely
only had them 2 days by the way got them from pets at home

 

[geo7x]

Hard to tell but they just look badly nipped to me, if it was rot I don't think the 'tear' would be so jagged, and the edges of what's left of the fins would probably look kind of....well.....rotten.

Can you remember what fish they were in with at p@h?

edit: Ok I just saw what jollysue said on the other thread Although I am still inclined to stand by what I said I would wait for other opinions first.

 

[drewry]

hi geo7x

there was just the 6 in a tank when i got them dont know if there was out in with them before.
ill get some meds in for fin rot and bactarial ill see what every one else thinks if it is just fin nip iv got some meds in anyway

 

[jollysue]

I have never seen fin rot on a Cory, so I don't know what it looks like. But I have seen fins jagged like that on Bettas. I don't see the white I thought I saw in the blurrier pics. Fin rot is bacterial.

The master on sick fish on TFF is Wilder, especially when it comes to UK meds. She is pro meds. There are different philisophical stands on the use of meds, and, like all areas of opinion, people get very heated about it. But Inchworm knows more than Wilder about Corys.

The undisputed Cory master around here is Ian Fuller (Coryman). And he would know what to do.

In the States I would go to Bryan Epstein as the most knowledgable person on Corys and USA meds that I know.

First get a diagnosis. Then decide the best treatment according to your approach. As geo says, it is perfectly possible that clean water alone will do it. For me I have lost too many fish from waiting until it is too late to treat successfully. But I have also lost fish from treating. Still by using meds I have learned what works and have a good arsenal. I learn more all the time.

It does not look like columnaris or fungus at all from the second group of pics.

If it is advanced fin rot then you will see that the fins are continuing to shorten and disappear. Sometimes you will even see pieces on the tank bottom.

Good luck. A prayer for wisdom never hurts.

 

[drewry]

I have never seen fin rot on a Cory, so I don't know what it looks like. But I have seen fins jagged like that on Bettas. I don't see the white I thought I saw in the blurrier pics. Fin rot is bacterial.

The master on sick fish on TFF is Wilder, especially when it comes to UK meds. She is pro meds. There are different philisophical stands on the use of meds, and, like all areas of opinion, people get very heated about it. But Inchworm knows more than Wilder about Corys.

The undisputed Cory master around here is Ian Fuller (Coryman). And he would know what to do.

In the States I would go to Bryan Epstein as the most knowledgable person on Corys and USA meds that I know.

First get a diagnosis. Then decide the best treatment according to your approach. As geo says, it is perfectly possible that clean water alone will do it. For me I have lost too many fish from waiting until it is too late to treat successfully. But I have also lost fish from treating. Still by using meds I have learned what works and have a good arsenal. I learn more all the time.

It does not look like columnaris or fungus at all from the second group of pics.

If it is advanced fin rot then you will see that the fins are continuing to shorten and disappear. Sometimes you will even see pieces on the tank bottom.

Good luck. A prayer for wisdom never hurts.

hi jollysue
i did pm Inchworm and still waiting for reply theres no white tips or out so im thinking the same as geo7x and its just the 2 fish out of 6 .but ill get some meds in anyway because iv been meaning to get some incase i ever needed them and wait to see what Inchworm says

 

[drewry]

well on closer inspection on one there is some white on the tips wich i never saw earlyer
sent wilder a pm and has been a great help
getting some meds tomorrow

 

[jollysue]

Keep your eyes open. I asked Ian Fuller to stop by to check with you.
I am going to sleep now, but wanted to give you a heads up.
There is wisdom in many counselors.

 

[stiffler69]

Ive got a similar problem on some of my albino corys in my small tank but it effected the whole tank and left my platys worse for wear aswell, it looked like ich, but then bits of the fish's fins started to come away and sores started to develop even on the platys eyes there was like a cloud over them looked like they have been sprinkled with salt as it does when they have ich, ich treatment dont nothing it was only when i added myxazin to the tank that the fish started to improve.

My corys looks to have the same damage as yours so it looks like a bad bacteria infection, but ive got something else what seems a little strange aswell, ive little microscopic things floating around look like small strands of hair but they seem to wriggle there is lots of it and they look nothing like them plenaria worms more like tiny strands of hair not sure what is.

 

[jollysue]

Maybe Ian didn't come by--Sorry drewry, but Wilder should have been able to help.

Stiffler, I say the same--ask Wilder. It sounds like a parasite, but I have never had them. There is not much that Wilder hasn't seen and she knows the UK meds, so chek it out with her.

 

[Luketendo]

Oh that's not what I thought, definately not the corys being with each other in the bag then.

 

[drewry]

Maybe Ian didn't come by--Sorry drewry, but Wilder should have been able to help.

Stiffler, I say the same--ask Wilder. It sounds like a parasite, but I have never had them. There is not much that Wilder hasn't seen and she knows the UK meds, so chek it out with her.

hi jollysue
yeah had a chat with wilder and she advised me to treat with myxazin so iv been out and got some
just about to have a good read of it before doseing

 

[jollysue]

istiffler, one thing is nearly always advised when meds are not being used. Keep the bio load down by lots of small water changes. Whether the danger is bacteria, fungus, parasite, water quality--whatever--doing frequent small water changes will keep the number of bad guys lower. That gives the fish a better chance to resist the assault and longer for the diagnosis and treatment. It is very helpful with parasites as well as bacterial infections. The parasites may well have been the source of stress and damage that gave entrance to the bacterial infection. I also believe that you had several secondary opportunistic infections. Once the fish's immunity is compromised, then the desease bacteria that are present in all aquariums take the "opportunity" to "pile on" and the fish may have several conditions that must be cured. Usually the fish by that time is very weakened and may only be able to stand being treated by one medication at a time. You definately need a master such as Wilder.

I look forward to good reports, drewry. I am sure the C.sterbai will give you years of gratitude with the pleasure of their antics and the increase of their numbers. They are an easy spawner once they start. There is nothing so rewarding as saving a good fish, unless it is saving 6!

 

[drewry]

istiffler, one thing is nearly always advised when meds are not being used. Keep the bio load down by lots of small water changes. Whether the danger is bacteria, fungus, parasite, water quality--whatever--doing frequent small water changes will keep the number of bad guys lower. That gives the fish a better chance to resist the assault and longer for the diagnosis and treatment. It is very helpful with parasites as well as bacterial infections. The parasites may well have been the source of stress and damage that gave entrance to the bacterial infection. I also believe that you had several secondary opportunistic infections. Once the fish's immunity is compromised, then the desease bacteria that are present in all aquariums take the "opportunity" to "pile on" and the fish may have several conditions that must be cured. Usually the fish by that time is very weakened and may only be able to stand being treated by one medication at a time. You definately need a master such as Wilder.

I look forward to good reports, drewry. I am sure the C.sterbai will give you years of gratitude with the pleasure of their antics and the increase of their numbers. They are an easy spawner once they start. There is nothing so rewarding as saving a good fish, unless it is saving 6!

ill keep u posted jollysue and thxs for ure help
they will be well looked after with me now

 

[drewry]

just an up date
finished the treatments now and there doing great
there fins seem to be mending and there more active now and feeding allot more

 

[jollysue]

Oh! that's great news, drewry!