Argh, My Poor Fish

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I have 6 Danios and a Betta and the tank is still cycling. Danios gills are very red. No one appears to be panting and everyone is VERY active.

I am doing 10% water change daily. Is that enough? Ammonia is still around 1ppm with daily 10% change.

When do I stop doing water changes?
 
The amount of water you need to change will be based on how high the Ammonia content is. 1 ppm is quite dangerous for your fish (which is why the gills are red). Do a 50% change to bring the level down to .5 ppm, and then later in the day another 50% change to bring it under .25 ppm. Then test at least once per day, and change enough water to maintain that <.25 ppm level. After Ammonia you'll have to monitor NitrIte...do the same thing, keep it below .25 ppm as much as possible. After your tank has finished cycling (0 ammonia and nitrItes) you can go to doing 25% weekly water changes.

Feed your fish very lightly (maybe even every other day) while the tank is cycling, and if you have enough light...fast growing plants like Anarachis and Hornwort/Foxtail can help suck up some of the ammonia/nitrites.
 
Tank is 55 gallons; I will do 50% change tonight. Should I put in the ammonia-locking chemicals the LFS sold me? I used that initially, then discontinued as I was doing daily water changes and I read that water changes are better than the ammonia locking chemicals.

Edited to add: I have no live plants at this point.
 
I have been reading some other ammonia threads and now I'm quite worried. Once I get the levels down, how soon will the fish recover?
 
Generally you want to avoid using chemicals to cover up problems, but in an emergency situation it's okay. We try to stress that chemicals do not replace the need for water changes, and that they are generally unnecessary (i.e. a waste of money).

Also remember that when you put chemicals in the water you are contributing to the osmotic pressure in your tank. A simplified explanation for this is... Water and chemicals in it try to equalize themselves between membranes...if there is more chemicals in the water than in the fishes body, water will try to leave the fishes body to equalize the amounts. The more chemicals, the harder the fishes body has to work to keep the proper balance within itself. Osmotic pressure is one of the reasons true saltwater fish cannot live in freshwater and why true freshwater fish cannot live in saltwater.

It's also really difficult to tell how long those chemicals keep toxic ammonia in it's less toxic form. In lower pH water (under ph 7) ammonia is more likely to stay in it's non-toxic form, while in higher pH water (over ph 7) ammonia is more likely to be in it's toxic form.

Sorry, not trying to drown you in science. Basically, use the chems if you think it's necessary, and do a big water change at the next opportunity. Remember that even if it's locked in the non-toxic form, the Ammonia will still be visible on the test. Once you get the ammonia down to a safer level, if you feed sparingly you should hopefully be able to do smaller, more manageable water changes (although they still may have to be done daily).
 
Thank you -- no worries on the science; I did a ton of biochem all those years ago when I was in college.

It sounds like there is no problem with doing multiple 50% changes in a relatively short period of time ... I am going to do a big change today (50-75%) and then re-check my levels.

Thank you sooooo much ... LFS had me thinking this was no big deal ... very cavalier.

Argh.
 
Just wanted to add,

make sure you keep up on the weekly 25 percent water changes, I assume you normally did 10? Thats a little low if thats the case.
 
Hi, it was a 10% DAILY water change.

I did about 60% yesterday (I am giving up measuring, just eyeballing but taking into account the sump) and got ammonia to .25 ppm, nitrite 0, nitrate between 0-.25 ppm.

I checked again this morning and ammonia is creeping up to .5, so I will do another change tonight after work.

Honestly, I was so frustrated yesterday that I was almost done with this hobby right at the beginning. I'll post another thread on THAT!
 

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