Aquarium Salt querry

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I have noticed that at Petsmart they have little plastic cups with about a quarter amount of aquarium salt in it.
I asked the girl about this, and she explained that because they receive so many new additions that it's a precautionary measure against disease. She also explained that mollies enjoy the salt and play with the empty cup afterwards LOL.... it's so cute to watch them do this.
Anyway, I have 3 mollies, and put a cup containing 2 tsp's of aquarium salt in it as per Petsmart. I noticed that my black mollie really enjoys this as she sometimes just sits inside the cup and when she's had enough... goes out for a swim.
What I'm wondering thought is, does salt accumulate in the tank? or does it get filtered out eventually? I wouldn't want to unknowingly turn my tank into a marine tank full of tropicals! :S
I also have a fish that shows slight signs of ich... but it hasn't gotten worse, as a matter of fact it seems to have improved since i put in that bit of salt in a cup!

Any comments?
 
if you have plecos in the tank salt will burn their skin since they're scaleless. No, salt doesn't filter out,it can only be removed with water changes
 
What other fish do you have in the tank? Mollies do enjoy salt if they've been raised in it, but if they've always been in 100% freshwater, then no salt is necessary. A lot of live plants do not like salt, and many fish, like corys, can't handle it. I've also heard that the salt may damage the labyrinth organ of fish like Gouramis and Bettas. What the salt is supposed to do to fish like Mollies is to ease the osmotic pressure, but it'll only help with diseases when more salt is added than before. If you've had the same amount of salt in the tank for weeks, then it won't do much protecting them from getting sick.

The salt does not evaporate or filter out, so if you want to keep the salt level the same, you'll have to add an appropriate amount every time you make a partial water change. If you change 25% of the water, you'll have to add half a table spoon, and so on.
 
First of all make sure your using aquarium salt. Not your regualar table kind. And no salt does not filter out. It can only be took out by water change. Use only 1tbs of salt for every 5 gallons of water.


Good Luck !
 
when i 1st started out in this hobby, i was advised by the guy at the lfs to add aquarium salt to my water. (even tho i had 2 BGKs, 3 syno squeaker catfish & 3 hillstream loaches in my tank which are all scaleless!) being a newbie, i'd of course trusted the fella. i religiously added salt to my water every time i did my water change. the 1st month was OK. but after that, i noticed one of my BGKs swimming erratically ard the tank & the skin on my catfish begin to peel off. i went back to the lfs & asked for advice & guess wat, he told me to add more salt & medication to contain the prob. the stupid me went home & did juz that. & there were more peeling, this time even my rainbow shark & dwarf gourami got 'injured'!

that was when i chanced upon this forum (my saviour!) & finally learnt more abt tropical fishkeeping. i posted my prob in the emergency & rcd some great advice! it was too late to save my BGK & loaches but the rest survived, thank God & this forum!

well, while we're still on the topic of salt, i wanna share this pretty good article on its use in the freshwater aquarium i found in the algone.com site.

Salt in Freshwater Aquariums
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Some hobbyists religiously use salt in fresh-water set-ups. The claim is a noticeable health improvement of certain fish. It is claimed to be safe and should be used as a
preventive measure against various parasitic infestations - it is also said to cure various diseases.

Further benefits include the ease of stress, reducing osmotic pressure, inhibition of nitrite uptake, promoting the slime coat, and helping in healing wounds. The salt recommended should be free of additives such as iodine. The recommended quantity ranges from 1 tablespoon per Gallons to 1 tablespoon per 5 Gallons.
At first view the claims do not sound bad.

Salt (sodium chloride/ table salt) does in fact have a direct connection to osmotic pressure. To explain this, picture a fish in an aquarium. The internal density of fish is greater then that of the water (fish contain salt in form of sodium and chloride ions transported by the blood). Incoming water tries to dilute their bodies to equal both sides, the inside of the fish and the water outside.

Osmotic pressure can be best described as the water trying to dilute the fish's body until both sides are equal. Freshwater fish therefore have to constantly eliminate the water - mainly through respiration and urine.

The same applies to saltwater species, but in this case the roles are reversed. Saltwater fish have to "drink" water in order to survive.

Osmoregulatory stress can occur during the transport of the fish, but is taken care of by stress protecting additives right from the beginning. Other than that, osmotic pressure is essentially non-existent and needn't be of concern.

Concluding the osmotic pressure issue, should salt be considered, for whatever reason, one teaspoon would be sufficient to treat about 500 Gallons of water.

Another salt related claim is the prevention of nitrite poisoning, which is also a theoretical true statement. Let's assume your tank is brand new and cycling, or the beneficial bacteria are adjusting to a change in tank inhabitants, or worst case, you killed some bacteria colonies using antibiotics to nuke the small algae glancing at you.

Salt can be used to prevent nitrite poisoning, if the chloride ions are 30 times the concentration of nitrite ions. Nitrite reaches a toxic level at about 0.1 ppm, which would require about 3 ppm of chloride ions. Depending on the salt (sodium chloride) used, it might translate to about 5 ppm (given that common salt has a chloride concentration of 60%) to ease possible nitrite poisoning. This in mind, one teaspoon
of salt would be sufficient to provide this effect for a 300 Gallon tank.

As a brief summary, 1 teaspoon per 300 Gallons will do as described above. Table salt does contain iodine and anti caking additives (to prevent the salt from clumping together). Iodine is essential for certain plants and animals, and definitely of no
concern, considering the low amount of salt and the low concentration of iodine added to the salt. Iodine at this concentration should be rather beneficial instead.

In some minor cases of external parasites, flukes, fungus, etc. a salt bath can assist the fish in healing better. This is in part related to the benefits of osmotic pressure regulation.

Fish stress is relieved and the organism can fight off diseases easier which aides in the recovery. The concentration should be 4 teaspoons per Gallon and the duration of the bath about 30 minutes. This bath will also stimulate the protective slime coat,
which will further enhance the fish's' ability to cope with the disease.

Protozoa (one celled parasites) on skin, gills and fins can effectively be removed by a salt bath. For the record, some fish do not respond well to a salt bath (i.e. some barbs, tetras, catfish and koi). A heavy concentration can make them loose their equilibrium and they simply "roll over". At this point the fish has to be moved to clear water very quickly. Some other considerations should be mentioned, before drawing a conclusion:

Salt does not evaporate, it can only be removed by water changes and plants will not survive higher concentrations. The reason is similar to what we can observe with fish that cannot survive higher salt concentrations. Once again osmosis is the reason. Freshwater naturally moves from an environment with a low salt concentration, (inside the plant or animal) to one with a higher salt concentration (the water). As a consequence the diversity of plants and animals decrease. This is because they canot keep the water and salt content of their bodies at the right concentrations for them to survive this environment. The lethal point for plants
is reached at about 1000 mg/l of salt. One teaspoon of salt equals approx. 5500 mg.

In Summary:
Salt does interfere with the osmotic regulation of fish and plants. It should be left alone; nature regulated that part itself, by creating freshwater, brackish and saltwater fish. The low beneficial amount of salt, mentioned above will not have
any benefits in addition to water conditioners and/or stress coats already used for water treatments.

It is good to know about the benefits of salt and the understanding of the mechanisms involved. It comes in handy, should the nitrites get out of control or as possible treatment for parasites (salt bath). A first aid kid, for sure. And last, disease prevention and cure. This is largely if not mainly based on enhancing the slime coat or regulatory osmotic control, but again stress protecting additives and water conditioners have the same effect.

Parasite prevention? Yes - in theory. But it is not justified. The long-term use of salt in the aquarium will have more negative aspects then benefits. Use of salt as a first aid tool should be determined on an individual basis, as there are no real guidelines
on how to use it safely and effectively. The immediate threat of salt to fish and plants is greater then that of any potential long term benefits that may or may not be gained by its use.

Important: Because of the potential hazards to the health of your fish and plants we do not recommend the use of salt in freshwater aquariums. The intent of this article is an objective look of the effects of salt and should only be viewed as a discussion about the topic.
 

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