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Rusty8687 said:
is it a good idea to introduce some real plants once I've got the levels in control? I've read this can help - but other places I've read say no. but your advice is paying off and dramatically helping
 
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Some plants are more delicate and sensitive to high levels of ammonia... BUT, all plants will readily take up ammonia from the water and use this as their nitrogen source.  I'd recommend sticking to the 'beginner' level plants for now.
 
 
What type of lighting you have will also dictate your plant choices.  But, going with java ferns, anubias (both need to be tied to decor, rocks, wood, etc. rather than buried in the substrate!), most amazon swords, most cryptocoryne plants (these will 'melt' many times when introduced to a new tank, but just leave them alone and they will almost always put out new shoots and start to regrow).
Personally, I'd get some plants and add them to the tank.  Your fish will appreciate them, they will help your cycle and they make the tank look so much nicer!
 
Your ammonia levels now are low enough that the plants (even the more sensitive ones) should be fine... especially after adding the sponges with the bacteria.  Completing both of these steps will greatly reduce the amount of nitrite you will end up seeing (which is a very good thing!)
 
The sponges likely have sufficient nitrite chomping bacteria to deal with whatever nitrite the ammonia chomping bacteria create.  And the plants will directly utilize the ammonia, meaning that less nitrite will ever even be produced.  You might see a slight bump in nitrite, but it won't last long and it will be far easier to deal with for the sake of your fish.
 
 
You are doing just fine... and remember:
 
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everything is going well so far. got home, checked levels - ammonia had gone down slightly from yesterday, not a lot, but slightly. ph stayed the same
 
fed the fish again...left it for half hour and conducted another water change.
 
only did a 50% change tonight
 
ammonia has gone down again - now sitting at 0.25ppm
ph still at 7.4
 
water is looking very clear as well
 
i have also decided that my filter is a piece of crap - next week i will be buying a new filter and putting that into the tank. I'm using a very cheap and basic aqua one filter... i will add the new filter once i got everything balanced. the new filter is an outside filter. 
 
when adding a brand new filter - i am guessing that it is best to run both filters in the tank simultaneously as removing the existing filter will also remove all the beneficial bacteria. how long should i run both filters until beneficial bacteria establishes in the new filter? 2 weeks?
 
Rusty8687 said:
when adding a brand new filter - i am guessing that it is best to run both filters in the tank simultaneously as removing the existing filter will also remove all the beneficial bacteria. how long should i run both filters until beneficial bacteria establishes in the new filter? 2 weeks?
 
When switching the filter, its best to just move all the filter media from the old filter into the new one and just run the new one...  kind of like you did when you added the sponges from the LFS.
 
easy as, thanks :)
 
well I'm really happy everything is on track now. I'm feeling really confident with it all now :)
 
will keep up with some 50% water change tomorrow then drop back to 25% for the following couple of days and keep checking all the levels.
 
i really appreciate everyones help and advice. I've learnt a lot and feeling a lot more motivated.
 
i will let you know the outcome after the weekend :)
 
Happy to have helped in some way. Your on track now but shout if you have any other questions :D
 
so did another 50% water change and ammonia dropped slightly again. all going swell.
 
however, my catfish has lost all its spots around its body. it looks like he's burnt or something. Not looking well at all. i took him out and put him into a really big bowl with an air stone and some water out the tank. i have just re-introduced him back to the tank - he is moving around a bit better now and being more active. but i am concerned that during the water change he was stripped of his colour and spots? the other catfish which is about triple the size of him is happy and healthy and just acting all chilled.
 
is this related to stress? will he be another victim in this 300 litres of hell? will his colour come back? will he turn into another ammonia bomb and chemically explode in my tank driving another series of victims in this glass box of terror?
 
 
 
UPDATE: full colour returned with his spots and is looking like a damn fine kitty fish. Must be stress
 
fish tend to lose colour when stressed so yes, it'll be the stress of the water changes. Unfortunately it's unavoidable with fish in cycles. The best way to help this would be to turn out the lights and limit any noise near the tank if you can
 
final water change for now.
 
ammonia reading at 0ppm. i tested the tank water against the tap water and both showing exactly the same colour. 
 
WIN!
 
nitrates and nitrites look good. PH is at 7.4. 
 
temperature at 26 degrees.
 
i won! thanks everyone! i couldn't have done it without you!
 
YEAH TEAMWORK!...FISH ARE FRIENDS!
 
Awesome work :)
 
What level nitrites at the moment?
 
Nitrites at 0 and nitrates at 20
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that should mean a real good beneficial bacteria growth - probably from the filter media i introduced from another tank that was donated from the pet shop.
 
after everything i have learnt through here and reading other pinned posts in this forum after this catastrophic experience...i believe i made the following mistakes...
 
  1. did not cycle the tank properly in the beginning
  2. did not use water conditioner on the very first water change (some key advice the original pet shop failed to give me)
  3. cleaned the filter destroying the beneficial bacteria
  4. over feeding (partner was feeding the fish which i wasn't aware and i was feeding the fish)
  5. too many fish added too quickly in the early stages
  6. using chemicals to get balances rather than technique and hard work to maintain balances - these just mask the problem...
made friends with the owner at another pet shop - absolute legend
found this forum that gives me amazing advice
 
successfully saved my fishies and now have a happy healthy and vibrant tank full of life.
 
If anybody new to fishies like myself are reading this thread - my one piece of key advice is 
 
1. DO A PROPER CYCLE!
2. BE PATIENT!!!
3. DO YOUR RESEARCH
4. BE PATIENT!!!!
 
did i mention - be patient?
 
Rusty8687 said:
after everything i have learnt through here and reading other pinned posts in this forum after this catastrophic experience...i believe i made the following mistakes...
 

  • did not cycle the tank properly in the beginning
  • did not use water conditioner on the very first water change (some key advice the original pet shop failed to give me)
  • cleaned the filter destroying the beneficial bacteria
  • over feeding (partner was feeding the fish which i wasn't aware and i was feeding the fish)
  • too many fish added too quickly in the early stages
  • using chemicals to get balances rather than technique and hard work to maintain balances - these just mask the problem...
made friends with the owner at another pet shop - absolute legend
found this forum that gives me amazing advice
 
successfully saved my fishies and now have a happy healthy and vibrant tank full of life.
 
If anybody new to fishies like myself are reading this thread - my one piece of key advice is 
 
1. DO A PROPER CYCLE!
2. BE PATIENT!!!
3. DO YOUR RESEARCH
4. BE PATIENT!!!!
 
did i mention - be patient?
Glad to hear things are going well.

The key to success is always research.

Want to start a new tank? Step one: research.
Want to buy a new fish? Step one: research.
Want to change out your substrate? Step one: research.


Keeping fish is a fairly simple process, but only if you understand and are working with the natural biology of the fish/ecosystem.

Generally speaking... All the fish need from us (nearly all the time) is decent maintenance and food, once the initial cycle is done.

Clean water and a properly maintained filter will do the rest. The filter simulates the ecosystem around the fish. The fresh water simulates the movement of the stream/river.
 
hey all
 
thought i would give everyone an update
 
over the last week, ammonia stayed at 0ppm - no movement what-so-ever
 
nitrates have remained steady at 20ppm
 
nitrites rose 5 days ago to 6ppm
 
through a series of 25% water changes - 1 in the morning and 1 at night for the first two days, then each morning for the next two days, skipped a day, one change this morning - the nitrites have dropped to 0.5ppm with everything else holding.
 
no loss of life either :)
 
thanks again to everyone for their help :)
 

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