Another victim of dropsy

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Yesterday I noticed my beautiful red female Scarlett has started to pinecone :-( I realised something was wrong with her as she'd stopped terrorising Roxy and was hiding up by the filter

I put her in my hospital tank with some salt and interpet no. 9 but it never did any good for my son's VT Alphie who we lost recently so I don't know when to call it a day and put her to sleep

I offered her peas yesterday, which she ate as I was hoping against hope that she was just constipated, but she's got her scales sticking out all the way down her body

Is it really worth continuing as she's very quiet although still showing good colour :dunno:

Here is a photo of her before she got ill
 

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Thanks for posting that Styx I'll do a large water change today to get the salt out of her water :/

Thanks also Yeevie, she is much redder and vibrant than the photos show and she is one of my favourites :wub: but I feel I'm going to be really lucky to save her. She is moving around a little and will come to see me when I look in on her
 
The one time I had dropsy, I cured the female using Maracyn 2 and added epsom salt to the tank, and I had some melafix in the tank prior to that. If she looks like she is suffering I would go ahead and put her down. If she is still acting like she has a will to live, you might try to save her.
 
I can't get hold of Marcyn 2 over here as I asked last time my son's VT had it :/

I have however completely changed the water as I'd got regular aquarium salt in there and I wanted to put epsom salts in. Also after reading a few articles I decided to treat with Pimafix and Melafix to try and rule out fungal and bacterial infections. So far she's the same.

Still very quiet but still colourful and pleased to see me when I approach her tank. We shall see how she goes.

I might decide to give her an epsom salt bath too if she's still around tomorrow as you use a much higher dose than what is in the tank all the time and it could relieve the bloating for her.
 
I have seen several people say they can't get certain med's in certain places. Is this becasue they are banned there or just because no stores carry it? If it is not banned, could somoene from over here not buy it and send it to these peopeol who cannot get it..or send them a link to an online store that does carry it? Just a thought.

Sorry about your girlie, I hope she pulls out of it.
 
I don’t think they’re banned or anything, it’s just that stores don’t carry them. Nobody here carries certain vitamins or meds I want either.

And I don’t think you should kill her. If she hasn’t given up yet, then neither should you.
 
Its not banned or anything, but our local stores don't carry them and in order to import "medication" you need to get clearance from a Government agency... kind of complicated if you are bringing in just one bottle.

So in my case I settled for what was here (Rid-All General Aid, Anti-Fungus and Copper Aid):

Medicine cabinet:

Salt from dried seawater
Mild Anti-Bacterial - Nutirlised Flavine B.P.C. ---> Ich and Finrot (with salt added as per instruictions)
Anti Fungal - Neutralized Trypaflavine ---> Fungus/Stubborn Ich/Finrot
Copper Aid - Chelated Copper Sulfate ---> Velvet

Also have Methalyne Blue, but I am not sure if this is good for Betta's.

Maybe it might be useful if we could post the contents of meds? We migth have the same or simialr things here under different names.
 
I just came across this article concerning Dropsy and thought some of you might find it interesting.

Dropsy
Symptoms: Fish's abdomen becomes unusually large and swollen, scales may stick out .
Dropsy is not, in itself, a specific disease, but rather refers to a condition where the fish's abdomen becomes swollen. A sudden swelling of the abdomen (scales may stick out) is known as acute dropsy while a slow swelling of the abdomen is known as chronic dropsy. The actual cause of this swelling could be indicitive of any one of several conditions:

Acute Dropsy - septicemia: Internal bacterial infection can cause internal bleeding and thus cause acute dropsy. (See septicemia).

Chronic Dropsy - cancer: In this case, the abdomen is slow to swell as the cancer affects the fish's internal organs. If the fish is not isolated in the early stages of the disease, it could spread to other fish.

Chronic Dropsy - parasites: Internal parasites can cause dropsy (abdominal swelling) either because they are very large, or because of the damage they are causing to a fish's organs. The abdomen tends to swell gradually if the fish has internal parasites. Isolating the fish helps prevent the spread of the condition.

Other Dropsy: There are other less common causes for both acute and chronic dropsy, and not all causes are known. Your vet will provide additional details.

Goldfish are said to be somewhat more prone to dropsy than other fish.


Remedy 1:
The first thing to do is to contact your vet or petstore for further instruction. In the case of dropsy, it is often hard to make an exact determination of the cause without doing a post-mortem on the fish. It is wise to place an afflicted fish into a quarantine tank will allow time away from competitive tankmates as well as helping to ensure that the condition does not spread. If this is done promptly, the chances of an outbreak amongst the other fish is fairly small.

Remedy 2
Because this treatment requires frequent bathing of your fish in a brine solution (a process which is stressful to your fish) this remedy is not recommended except under supervision of your vet, or other fish expert.

The first task is to begin medicating the tank with an antibiotic in order to remove the initial cause of the dropsy.

During the time that your antibiotics are active, your fish should have 2 to 3 one-hour brine treatment sessions a day. This will help break the fluid bond, and speed recovery.

THE ONE HOUR TREATMENT SESSION - Within the one-hour time period, your fish should be bathed 2 to 3 times in the brine solution. During one bathing, the fish should only be left in the solution until he shows signs of stress (usually 2 to 4 minutes) and then returned to the antibiotic-medicated tank.

MAKING THE BRINE SOLUTION - The solution should be 4 tablespoons of brine salt to one gallon of water for the short-term baths.

When antibiotic treatment is over, discontinue any further treatment for 7 days. During this 7-day period, 1 tablespoon of salt can be added to the tank per 5 gallons of water. Treatment may be repeated after this 7-day period if the dropsy does not disappear.
 
Yes, its difficult for us to find the meds over here. Only a few shops stock Melafix and Pimafix over here

Thanks for the article SRC. I've given Scarlett her first epsom salt bath this morning and she was fine with it. She seems a little more active now too but the scales are still sticking out but I don't think its going to be a magic fix.

She's looking for food, but I don't really want to feed her as I don't want to increase the pressure inside her :crazy: might try her with a small amount of pea again tonight

At least she's lasted longer than the last one and she's still fighting :flex:
 
Can you get any antibiotics to add? According to several other articles I read...along with the salt baths that could help her chances.
 
I had to make the hard decision of letting Scarlett go today. She had battled for a week, but had been losing colour badly and stopped moving around and eating. She swelled so much that I was sure she would pop.

She had been having twice daily epsom salt baths and I'd put Interpet 9 in there but I guess its true that once they pine cone, they are gone.

I'm going to miss her as she was such a character :byebye: Scarlett
 
Sorry to hear about Scarlett. Sometimes best to let them go. Had a fish die on me awhile back, Clipper. Watching him the last 12 hours, I wish I gave him a more peaceful way out.
 

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