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hello, i was wondering if you could give me any care about angelfish/cichlids? i'm gonna get some soon and put them in a planted aquaium, my one big question is if they could live with common red freshwater lobsters. i have a very tall 48 gallon, how many could i fit? its were meserments, its like a hexigon shape... :huh: its my moms old saltwater, curently being used by my sionr syian hamster,wich i will move to a retiremet bin cage soon and i will do a good clean on that (but not with soap, of couse)


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Unicornblast5000 said:
hello, i was wondering if you could give me any care about angelfish/cichlids? i'm gonna get some soon and put them in a planted aquaium, my one big question is if they could live with common red freshwater lobsters. i have a very tall 48 gallon, how many could i fit? its were meserments, its like a hexigon shape... :huh: its my moms old saltwater, curently being used by my sionr syian hamster,wich i will move to a retiremet bin cage soon and i will do a good clean on that (but not with soap, of couse)


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sorry for all the typos lol wen i said were meserments i ment weird meserments, i forgot to say i will try to share pics of the tank :)
 
what are "meserments?" like measurements? i think not, the lobsters might harm the angels.
 
Hi and welcome

Angelfish do benefit from having a tall tank, but the hexagon tanks tend to be not very wide.

You need to have at least 5 or 6 to try lessen the violence they will let loose on each other.

If you can start with 5 or 6 you may ended up with a pair, you will just need to rehome the extras.

Again it depends on the width.

Personally would not trust any lobster/crayfish in with fish, the can opportunist eaters
 
cdelly said:
Hi and welcome

Angelfish do benefit from having a tall tank, but the hexagon tanks tend to be not very wide.

You need to have at least 5 or 6 to try lessen the violence they will let loose on each other.

If you can start with 5 or 6 you may ended up with a pair, you will just need to rehome the extras.

Again it depends on the width.

Personally would not trust any lobster/crayfish in with fish, the can opportunist eaters
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ok, here, this is not pics but a better discripton of the measurements
 

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Might as well be truthful from the start...fish and crustaceans like lobsters are not compatible.

Second issue is likely the tank size and the behaviours of the angelfish. [I see another member has posted while I've been typing, on similar lines.] Angelfish may seem small fish in store tanks, but they grow larger than many realize, with a body length of 6 inches (15 cm) and a vertical fin span of 8-9 inches (20-22 cm). This requires a spacious tank. It is a shoaling fish, meaning it lives in groups; it is possible to have one or a bonded male/female pair on their own, in a suitable tank, but beyond that no fewer than five or six (preferably more) but that in itself can mean trouble if a pair forms, or a male becomes aggressive. A 4-foot (120 cm) length tank would be minimum, and preferably longer, but if a pair forms or trouble ensues, you need a back-up plan to separate the fish.

I am not in favour of keeping a fish contrary to its expectations, as this can cause serious stress and behavioural problems.
 
I wouldn't add the lobsters. Angelfish have very long delicate fins that often get torn up by fin nippers (and occasionally each other). I don't like the look of those pincers...
 
So it's prob equal to about 3x2x2, if I'm reading your sizes right.

You could get away with 6 angels in that but you will still need to rehome any that don't pair up.

Also I would wash it out so much after hamsters have used it.
 
Having now seen the tank measurements, this tank could hold a bonded pair, but most certainly not a group. A bonded pair means the two fish have encountered one another withn a group and decided to form a pair--something that is not the norm for this species, they can be very fussy when it comes to finding mates. And a "pair" of angelfish that try "marriage" but can't make a go of it usually results in a dead female; in the habitat they cold easily escape one another, but not in an aquarium.
 
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Additionally, I have experience with angels and their attitudes. Your tank is not very wide and, therefore, doesn't have much room for an angelfish to escape from a confrontation. The real function of space and cover when you're dealing with semi aggressive fish is to give them an escape route and break up their line of sight. I would be hesitant. You would have to watch them very carefully.
 
cdelly said:
So it's prob equal to about 3x2x2, if I'm reading your sizes right.

You could get away with 6 angels in that but you will still need to rehome any that don't pair up.

Also I would wash it out so much after hamsters have used it.
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will do, thanks for the info
 
dsch132 said:
Additionally, I have experience with angels and their attitudes. Your tank is not very wide and, therefore, doesn't have much room for an angelfish to escape from a confrontation. The real function of space and cover when you're dealing with semi aggressive fish is to give them an escape route and break up their line of sight. I would be hesitant. You would have to watch them very carefully.
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but, like, how do you tell the diffrence between fighting and playing? should i add some hides? how do i tell who started the fight?
 
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