Angelfish

[Balloons&killies]

Ok so are angelfish really cichlids?
Second question: I want to start breeding angels but those ones in the petstore called "small angelfish" are they really a small breed or just young angels?



Need some advice!!



Thanks:Balloons&Killies

 

[star4]

hi Yes Angels are Cichlids, and small angels are youngsters, I am not really aware of a dwarf angel, but I may be incorrect. I have never bred them myself but I know when they are young its almost impossible to tell males from females, so you would need to buy a few and allow them to pair up.

 

[trojannemo]

there are no small breeds of angels. 99% of angels in stores are Pterophyllum scalare, no matter if they look white, black, marbled, barred, pearly, etc...they're different varieties of the same species. they all grow to the same size, though different strains will grow at different rates.
what you get at a store as a small angel is usually a 3month old angel baby or even younger...you could get 6 of those and in 6-8 months they should be pairing up and then you can separate the pairs and breed them

 

[Balloons&killies]

Ok Thanks guys! Never knew they would be a type of cichlid!! would a 10 gallon work for a pair?? And when i was looking in petland i always thought that he males angels always had the really pointy dorsalfin and the females always had long lacy fins. is it true?



and would this easter island head piece work to breed them

Click on the site thing to see the pic

http/s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv114/Garett101/?action=view&current=100_0959.jpg

 

[Tolak]

Minimum tank size for a pair is a 20 high, angels grow tall and a 10 gallon doesn't provide that height. Fins have noting to do with the sex of an angel, the only reliable way to tell is when they are actively spawning.

They might spawn on that decoration, angels tend to like taller objects at a bit of an angle. I've been using pieces of pvc pipe for years, others use slate, some use plants, all pretty much personal preference.

Please understand that raising an angel spawn takes tank space, as well as daily hatching of live baby brine shrimp for any success. A small spawn is 200 fish, each fish raised to dime body size will need 1/2 gallon of tank space, nickel body size will need a gallon each. There is also maintenance required beyond caring for the average stocked community tank, as well as some specialized, but easily made at home equipment.

I sure don't want you to be put off with this, but you should know these things going into it. If you would still like to breed angels I, and several other members would be more than happy to help you with this. There are plenty of tips, tricks, and cheap ways around things that we have picked up, no reason for you to reinvent the wheel!

 

[Balloons&killies]

Minimum tank size for a pair is a 20 high, angels grow tall and a 10 gallon doesn't provide that height. Fins have noting to do with the sex of an angel, the only reliable way to tell is when they are actively spawning.

They might spawn on that decoration, angels tend to like taller objects at a bit of an angle. I've been using pieces of pvc pipe for years, others use slate, some use plants, all pretty much personal preference.

Please understand that raising an angel spawn takes tank space, as well as daily hatching of live baby brine shrimp for any success. A small spawn is 200 fish, each fish raised to dime body size will need 1/2 gallon of tank space, nickel body size will need a gallon each. There is also maintenance required beyond caring for the average stocked community tank, as well as some specialized, but easily made at home equipment.

I sure don't want you to be put off with this, but you should know these things going into it. If you would still like to breed angels I, and several other members would be more than happy to help you with this. There are plenty of tips, tricks, and cheap ways around things that we have picked up, no reason for you to reinvent the wheel!

Thanks, anyway i was going to raise them in a community tank and see who survives......or ill put a few in a small breeding trap...I think ill start with about 3 angels 1 koi and ill try to get a black 1 and a zebra 1....can they start breeding when they are about toonie size?

 

[mystus]

http/www.youtube.com/user/Jazzy78910

Here is a very helpful videos.


Good Luck

 

[mattlee]

great link that

 

[SBL]

Would a 29 be good for 2-3 angels? Along with various Tetras and possibly a festivum