Dragonswynter
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Hi all ☺
I have have been scouring the web trying to find anything I could about this phenomena, and I have found precious little information.
I have a 55 gallon, all angelfish (6), 1 ivory mystery snail, 2 nerites, and several plants.
Well for the last couple of months I've been hearing a strange kind of noise coming from my tank. It almost sounds like a knock, and I've been thinking someone is hitting the tank glass during their skirmishes. Tonight I finally saw it happen. My largest angel is making this sound itself. It is remarkably loud. I usually sit a good 6-7 feet away from the tank, it's set up in pur living room. I can clearly hear this noise over the television. I was able to find a very few questions on the web about this, posted on various forums. I've seen where long time angel keepers say that in the 30+ years they've bred them they have never heard a noise from any angels. And they can't imagine you'd hear it thru the water and the glass, especially with normal ambient noise, such as tv etc... And the few people who actually have heard sounds think they may be imagining it, because nobody else has ever experienced it. They're unable to get acknowledgement that yes, this is happening, they aren't going nuts.
It is only my largest angel making these sounds, at least as far as I have witnessed. I've also been thinking it is a male, due to just how aggressive it has been toward the other angels. Two of which were a proven breeding pair, so I know their sexes. The other large one in the tank I'm pretty sure is a male. I was able to get a look at that one's tube quite a while ago. I suppose it was extended then because the known female was placing her eggs. However, I just saw what looks to me like a female breeding tube on the biggest one. The known female died a couple of days ago, so now my known male is in what I believe to be a mourning state. He didn't start eating again until tonight, and would stay in the same spot where he and his mate were rearing their fry. They were the dominant fish in the tank. Now the dynamic has totally flipped, and he is being dominated and driven into fleeing and hiding from the biggest one.
It seems like the big one is trying to court or coax the non-paired angel maybe? When I witnessed the sounds, they were side by side, or the suspected male was moving away. It was almost like It was trying to call him back. Now I could very well be projecting, as I am far far far from being any kind of authority on fish! And sometimes they are near the others when I hear the sounds, so maybe it's a dominance thing not a mating thing?? I am leaning toward mating though, as they are usually on their own when I hear it, and the largest one is being very domineering over all others in the tank. Much more so now than ever before.
I would love to know if anyone has ever heard a freshwater angel vocalize in some way??
I did find a video of a marine emporer make sounds very much like what I hear from mine, but I've been unable to find anything else about freshwater varieties.
Also, if someone versed in sexing could take a look at the pictures I'm including, and let me know if I in fact have a male or female, that would be wonderful!
Thanks for reading my novel here, sorry it's so long! I tend to be a little OCD about details
I have have been scouring the web trying to find anything I could about this phenomena, and I have found precious little information.
I have a 55 gallon, all angelfish (6), 1 ivory mystery snail, 2 nerites, and several plants.
Well for the last couple of months I've been hearing a strange kind of noise coming from my tank. It almost sounds like a knock, and I've been thinking someone is hitting the tank glass during their skirmishes. Tonight I finally saw it happen. My largest angel is making this sound itself. It is remarkably loud. I usually sit a good 6-7 feet away from the tank, it's set up in pur living room. I can clearly hear this noise over the television. I was able to find a very few questions on the web about this, posted on various forums. I've seen where long time angel keepers say that in the 30+ years they've bred them they have never heard a noise from any angels. And they can't imagine you'd hear it thru the water and the glass, especially with normal ambient noise, such as tv etc... And the few people who actually have heard sounds think they may be imagining it, because nobody else has ever experienced it. They're unable to get acknowledgement that yes, this is happening, they aren't going nuts.
It is only my largest angel making these sounds, at least as far as I have witnessed. I've also been thinking it is a male, due to just how aggressive it has been toward the other angels. Two of which were a proven breeding pair, so I know their sexes. The other large one in the tank I'm pretty sure is a male. I was able to get a look at that one's tube quite a while ago. I suppose it was extended then because the known female was placing her eggs. However, I just saw what looks to me like a female breeding tube on the biggest one. The known female died a couple of days ago, so now my known male is in what I believe to be a mourning state. He didn't start eating again until tonight, and would stay in the same spot where he and his mate were rearing their fry. They were the dominant fish in the tank. Now the dynamic has totally flipped, and he is being dominated and driven into fleeing and hiding from the biggest one.
It seems like the big one is trying to court or coax the non-paired angel maybe? When I witnessed the sounds, they were side by side, or the suspected male was moving away. It was almost like It was trying to call him back. Now I could very well be projecting, as I am far far far from being any kind of authority on fish! And sometimes they are near the others when I hear the sounds, so maybe it's a dominance thing not a mating thing?? I am leaning toward mating though, as they are usually on their own when I hear it, and the largest one is being very domineering over all others in the tank. Much more so now than ever before.
I would love to know if anyone has ever heard a freshwater angel vocalize in some way??
I did find a video of a marine emporer make sounds very much like what I hear from mine, but I've been unable to find anything else about freshwater varieties.
Also, if someone versed in sexing could take a look at the pictures I'm including, and let me know if I in fact have a male or female, that would be wonderful!
Thanks for reading my novel here, sorry it's so long! I tend to be a little OCD about details
