Angelfish Dying

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I've lost 7 angelfish in the last week. Had three adults and 6 babies spread over 2 tanks. Now I have one adult and 1 baby in the big one. I just find them dead when I get home. None of them look like they have anything wrong with them, and are swimming and eating fine the night before. My two big marbled adults even spawned just last week! What could be going on here? Whatever it is, it is ONLY affecting the angels. Haven't lost a single other fish! Will test the water and post back with parameters.
 
There is something called "angelfish disease" which I read about online a while back, when I was looking into the reasons that all my LFS's (even the ones that aren't crappy generic pet stores) were having issues keeping them alive, and I couldn't keep them around either. I'd look into it, I don't know if it's just some mythical disease thrown into the picture to put people's minds at ease when a somewhat sensitive species of fish dies mysteriously, or if it's a legitimate disease, but since it's only been your angels, maybe it is something.
 
Did you add anything different to the water lately? Have you feed different foods? It could be what onidrase said about the angel fish disease. I would recommend looking into that as well.
 
Using the same dechlorinator, same food. I've ordered Excel to start dosing my plants, but it's not here yet. The only thing changed is a bit of beard algae growing in the tank, which they seemed to relish. Just not enough to knock it out, hence the Excel order.

Will read up on angelfish disease when I get the chance. Thanks for responding!
 
Where did you get your angels? When I had an angel tank previously, I couldn't keep PetSmart angels alive for the life of me. I finally ponied up some extra money for the angels from my lfs and they fared far better. Everything else about my tank was the same, just the lfs angels proved far hardier.
 
1. How long have you had the angels.
2. What are the last few things you added to each of the tanks and when? Include any fish, plants, inverts, wood, rocks etc.
3. Do you have other tanks beside the two with the angels?

My experience is that lots of deaths in a short time have a common cause. it is usually something that entered the tank(s) fairly recently and is usually virulent. Since you are only losing angels this would tend to rule out chemical type contaminants but not specific diseases. It is possible to transfer diseases by using the same net in different tanks etc. or even on your hands when cleaning/working on tanks. Some things are even airborne and can spread even when nothing in common goes into different tanks.
 
I've lost 7 angelfish in the last week. Had three adults and 6 babies spread over 2 tanks. Now I have one adult and 1 baby in the big one. I just find them dead when I get home.

Did this happen after, or soon after, a water change?
 
1. How long have you had the angels.
2. What are the last few things you added to each of the tanks and when? Include any fish, plants, inverts, wood, rocks etc.
3. Do you have other tanks beside the two with the angels?

My experience is that lots of deaths in a short time have a common cause. it is usually something that entered the tank(s) fairly recently and is usually virulent. Since you are only losing angels this would tend to rule out chemical type contaminants but not specific diseases. It is possible to transfer diseases by using the same net in different tanks etc. or even on your hands when cleaning/working on tanks. Some things are even airborne and can spread even when nothing in common goes into different tanks.

1. The 3 adults I'd had for months. The babies were all acquired in the last few weeks from two different sources, so whatever it is, no doubt they brought it with them and were not quarantined long enough. Pretty sure it was the Petsmart angels. I've NEVER lost a fish from my local Petsmart before now (that's why I didn't quarantine them very long), so it came as a huge surprise. The ones from Petco, surprisingly, lasted longer than the Petsmart angels, it's one of those that is still alive. I had sworn off Petco, but just had a brand new one open a mere 3 miles from my house, so the tanks are still very clean, and the marbled angels they had were stunningly beautiful, so I took the risk.
2. No new plants, rock, etc. in the 75 where the adults were. Added a bamboo shrimp last week after quarantine. Moved him sooner than I would have liked simply because they need a more established tank to thrive, and he's doing great.
3. I do have a 38 gallon tank with platies, otos, cories, and danios. All of them are doing fine.

Will buy new nets to have tank specific nets to prevent cross contamination. The ones I have are usually dry when I go to work on a tank, but will get more just to be safe in the future.

I blame myself for getting too relaxed with quarantining Petsmart fish, but want to know what is going on so I can treat the last 2, the tanks, and know how long to wait before trying angels again if the last 2 die as well. I have really fallen in love with the marbled angels. Them appearing fine one night, eating and swimming like normal, and dead on the bottom still looking perfect (other than being dead, of course) the next day just seems so strange.

Just for extra info, the tankmates that are not succumbing to whatever this is (so far, anyway) include clown loaches, chinese algae eaters, tiger barbs, otos, and a red tailed shark in the 75 gallon, and xray tetras and neon tetras in the 29 gallon. Had put the tiniest angels in with the tetras so they could get a bit bigger before going into the semi-aggresive tank.

Should I hold off on dosing the Excel until this is resolved? It will be here any minute now. Or will that not matter/possibly help as my plants get healthier?
 
I've lost 7 angelfish in the last week. Had three adults and 6 babies spread over 2 tanks. Now I have one adult and 1 baby in the big one. I just find them dead when I get home.

Did this happen after, or soon after, a water change?


I do water changes on Saturday or Sunday, depending on what I've got going on for the weekend, nitrates stay pretty low, so sometimes I skip a week depending. Did one Saturday the 7th. Lost 2 angels on the 9th, one on the 10th, one on the 12th. Did a water change on the 14th and lost two on the 17th. I use Prime for water changes.
 
Down to just the baby angelfish from Petco. My last big one died in just the last half hour. She even ate a couple hours ago.
 
oh my, thats just terrible!! It's so strange since non of your other fish are affected. Is the Bamboo shrimp the only thing you added?
 
oh my, thats just terrible!! It's so strange since non of your other fish are affected. Is the Bamboo shrimp the only thing you added?


The baby angelfish were only slightly newer than the shrimp. :( About to go to Petsmart and raise some ........
 
My hubby just reminded me of something when I was telling him about your angelfish...

We always check them out at our petsmart cause that's what we are getting soon and everytime we have gone in the last week there are a bunch of dead ones in their tank. Do you think they have the same suppliers for all their stores? Maybe they have something that only affects angelfish? Maybe the new ones infected your others.
 
9 Angelfish dead in 9 days. No other fishie fatalities. It has to be something that only affects angelfish, and it got ALL of mine. Time to update the siggie. :(

I would imagine they do use the same supplier, Fish Fanny. I always look for dead fish in tanks when I buy, and looked again when I was up there just now, and none were dead. Considering they were the first 4 to go, and in two different tanks, I can't help but think that's where it came from. The Petco fish were never in the 29g I put the tiniest 2 angels in.
 

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