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Hi guys, I am an 18 yr old enthusiast and am in the middle of my career choices. I've always wanted to get into the marine sciences as a career choice. However, out of all the research I do, I cannot seem to find the info im looking for. Let me give a job description - I want to work in a lab with fish or corals, and im not big into the whole diving thing. I understand there are MANY different careers in marine sciences and I just cannot seem to find any job label to fit what I am looking for.


Does anybody know what im talking about here. Or does anyone know where to turn, or have a link I can go to for more info?


Thanks.
 
Hi guys, I am an 18 yr old enthusiast and am in the middle of my career choices. I've always wanted to get into the marine sciences as a career choice. However, out of all the research I do, I cannot seem to find the info im looking for. Let me give a job description - I want to work in a lab with fish or corals, and im not big into the whole diving thing. I understand there are MANY different careers in marine sciences and I just cannot seem to find any job label to fit what I am looking for.


Does anybody know what im talking about here. Or does anyone know where to turn, or have a link I can go to for more info?


Thanks.

Start by looking at degree courses in marine sciences. The universities that run them will have research staff, technicians etc.
 
I got my diving certification at age 10. At age 12-14 I did not want to really dive again. But now I am back. I figure just because something hurts you does not mean it will kill you. After all the marine life I have been bit and stung by I no longer care and I am back diving. Getting certified is easy, the only problem I had was my sinuses.
 
My degree is in zoology and for a while I was a marine biologist afterwards. In the end I switched and did my PhD in palaeontology, and now end up writing about tropical fish for magazines! So go figure...

Anyway, it's very important to understand that almost no marine biology jobs involving diving, playing with dolphins, keeping sharks in aquaria, or really anything like that. The major fields are things like fisheries management, oceanography, and environmental monitoring. So the people who are going to succeed will not be those who know much about marine animals and plants, but biochemists, mathematicians, computer modellers and so on. In fact, there's a good argument for becoming expert in maths, and then picking a field in the sciences where you can apply those math skills. Likewise computing, in terms of modelling and statistics at least.

Jobs are extremely scarce, and if you stay in academia you can expect to work 7 days a week on low wages and with zero job security. Very likely you'll have to move city if not country every three years as each research grant expires. So getting a house or starting a family is very difficult. Simply getting grants is close to impossible (failure rate is something like 98% per grant application) and you'll be up against people who are often smarter, better qualified, and more prepared to work 14 hour days, 7 days a week. Those post-graduate students and junior researchers who succeed in science these days tend to be incredibly focused and dedicated (or, put another way, completely non-social, poor, and with no ambitions outside their work).

I would recommend ANYONE considering marine biology spend time talking with someone working in the field. Get an idea of what the career progression path is (or more accurately, the lack of progression for 90% of the people who start in the field). Think carefully about whether you wouldn't enjoy the science more as an amateur who happens to have a good job as a doctor or banker or lawyer or whatever.

In fact this holds true for most of the "fun" sciences, be it astronomy, palaeontology, archaeology or whatever. Many of the people who enjoy these sciences in the way they want to enjoy them, do it by earning money in a real job, and then spending their weekends or holidays pottering about on exotic field excursions or running their own experiments at home. I've come across vets who also happen to be world experts on fossil sharks, and medical doctors who have built observatories on their houses to search for supernovas and comets.

Cheers, Neale
 
well i don't know much specialised stuff about marine sciences but as a general guide a good place to start is to get a general degree in something like marine biology, most degree courses will have modules you can pick from so you can try a few things out before you decide what to specialise in. Then when the degree is done you should have a clearer idea of what you want to do and then take on a masters in your specialised field.

As Neale said, sometimes a good understanding of maths/computer science would help a lot so why not look at a joint honours degree in marine biology and maths or something along those lines. :good:
 
My degree is in zoology and for a while I was a marine biologist afterwards. In the end I switched and did my PhD in palaeontology, and now end up writing about tropical fish for magazines! So go figure...

Anyway, it's very important to understand that almost no marine biology jobs involving diving, playing with dolphins, keeping sharks in aquaria, or really anything like that. The major fields are things like fisheries management, oceanography, and environmental monitoring. So the people who are going to succeed will not be those who know much about marine animals and plants, but biochemists, mathematicians, computer modellers and so on. In fact, there's a good argument for becoming expert in maths, and then picking a field in the sciences where you can apply those math skills. Likewise computing, in terms of modelling and statistics at least.

Jobs are extremely scarce, and if you stay in academia you can expect to work 7 days a week on low wages and with zero job security. Very likely you'll have to move city if not country every three years as each research grant expires. So getting a house or starting a family is very difficult. Simply getting grants is close to impossible (failure rate is something like 98% per grant application) and you'll be up against people who are often smarter, better qualified, and more prepared to work 14 hour days, 7 days a week. Those post-graduate students and junior researchers who succeed in science these days tend to be incredibly focused and dedicated (or, put another way, completely non-social, poor, and with no ambitions outside their work).

I would recommend ANYONE considering marine biology spend time talking with someone working in the field. Get an idea of what the career progression path is (or more accurately, the lack of progression for 90% of the people who start in the field). Think carefully about whether you wouldn't enjoy the science more as an amateur who happens to have a good job as a doctor or banker or lawyer or whatever.

In fact this holds true for most of the "fun" sciences, be it astronomy, palaeontology, archaeology or whatever. Many of the people who enjoy these sciences in the way they want to enjoy them, do it by earning money in a real job, and then spending their weekends or holidays pottering about on exotic field excursions or running their own experiments at home. I've come across vets who also happen to be world experts on fossil sharks, and medical doctors who have built observatories on their houses to search for supernovas and comets.

Cheers, Neale

Neale you are my hero lol :nod:

Dream jobs are out there, you just need to make sure of your personal priorities before you all out commit yourself to a career path like this.
Would working in a lab with animals like these keep you satisfied for a decade or two? Would it be enough to still be worthwhile despite all of the negatives Neale listed.

Even if you've decided that yes, it is all worth it for the job satisfaction, once you're there you will time and time again question why you're doing it, many things will remind you why! But all careers of passion are an emotional rollercoaster :D

Keep your options broad at this point, take a qualification that is flexible and gives you other possibilities.
At your age I couldnt decide if I was going to go towards palaeontology or herpetology (professionally, I was a hobbyist of both) I took Biology and Geology at Manchester, I kept my options very broad and that meant at the end of my degree I really still had a hundred open doors to consider. At that time I was still certain I was going to become a palaeontologist and specialise in reptilian evolution. I'm now a Zookeeper or more appropriately a "Herpetologist" lol.

The most important thing is, I can always change my mind.
Get a broad range of skills behind you both academically and as practical experience, these are the things that will support you through choices and changes.

Best of luck
Lotte***
 

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