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450L Tank - What Would You Stock And Why?!

Ryan_W

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Ahhhhhh.....

My 450L tank is going to be here on the 3rd Nov!

I'm now racking my brain with how I want to stock it. Originally I was just going to go down the dwarf cichlid, cory, tetra, plec, loach route, but now I can't stop looking at pics of SA Cichlids on google...........

Can someone help me out please!

Cheers all,

Ryan
 
Depends on dimensions.

As you asked what I would stock it with....I'd go down the SA route too:
Discus, altums, dwarf cichlids/geo's a huge school of tetra, cory's. Heavily planted with lots of bogwood.

Though traditionally my interests like with larger CA/SA cichlids - so I would be tempted to have a pair of festae.
 
I would go for SA cichlids. Something like
1 chocolate cichlid
1 severum
4 geophuagus red head tapajo
2 port, platinum or twin spot acara
1 royal or cactus plec
10 congo tetra
 
It's quite a long and thin tank, measures 74"L x 20"W x 18"H.

I really like the looks of Pseudotropheus Demasoni, beautiful fish!

What would I be able to transfer over from my current tanks to a Cichlid tank (see my sig for fish)...

Thanks,

Ryan
 
What would I be able to transfer over from my current tanks to a Cichlid tank (see my sig for fish)...
It really dependence what cichlids you want. If you just stick to dwarf then all the fish should be fine but if you go for bigger cichlids like severums, geophagus acara not to many of the fish will work.
 
My choice would be easy for a 450l tank, Chops :lol: and his current friends severums & clown loach
 
I think I'm going to go down the African route, they offer a greater variety of colour and that's a big thumbs up from me.

I'll probably get a large-ish Plec, I really like the Gold Nugget Plec but it's a little small, aiming for one around 12". Maybe get some loaches to move the sand about too, not sure which ones though.
 
Depends on dimensions.

As you asked what I would stock it with....I'd go down the SA route too:
Discus, altums, dwarf cichlids/geo's a huge school of tetra, cory's. Heavily planted with lots of bogwood.

Though traditionally my interests like with larger CA/SA cichlids - so I would be tempted to have a pair of festae.


Really like your opinion here...

My girlfriends has fallen in LOVE with Discus. Could you stock all the fish you stated in the same tank, and then add a pair of docile, large Cichlids as a centre piece?

It sounds silly, but I want some fairly large-ish fish in the tank, but ones which aren't going to eat all my other fish! Corys and Emperor Tetras are the smallest fish I'd have in there if I went down the route you suggested.

Cheers,

Ryan
 
I'd go down the SA path too, something like
5 Discus
3 Angelfish
10 Rummynose Tetra
2 L114 Leopard Catcus Pleco
6 Brochis Corydoras
8 Giant Hatchetfish
And maybe a pair of Keyhole Cichlids.
 
Depends on dimensions.

As you asked what I would stock it with....I'd go down the SA route too:
Discus, altums, dwarf cichlids/geo's a huge school of tetra, cory's. Heavily planted with lots of bogwood.

Though traditionally my interests like with larger CA/SA cichlids - so I would be tempted to have a pair of festae.


Really like your opinion here...

My girlfriends has fallen in LOVE with Discus. Could you stock all the fish you stated in the same tank, and then add a pair of docile, large Cichlids as a centre piece?

It sounds silly, but I want some fairly large-ish fish in the tank, but ones which aren't going to eat all my other fish! Corys and Emperor Tetras are the smallest fish I'd have in there if I went down the route you suggested.

Cheers,

Ryan

In the first option yes, discus and festae wouldn't work out well I imagine :crazy:. Discus are meant to be difficult to keep though, I'm personally weighing up my options on them, wether to take the plunge or not. I wouldn't recommend them as a beginner fish, possibly get the other fish first, see how you get on with them and then consider discus.
 
discus come with the myth that they are hard to keep but with good tank maintenance and good filtration its no harder than any other fish tbh. they eat alot of meaty food and this is where the water quality can go down hill. this is why people keep them in bare bottom tanks so excess food and poo can be removed asap. they are also slow eaters that pick at food rather than stuffing their faces like most other fish. if you really want them then go for it, as long as the water params are stable it will be fine. i would suggest going for a large discus rather than a small cheaper specimin as they arent as fussy and can be fed just twice a day instead of up to 6 times a day for juvi discus. try and get some around the 5-6 inch mark and look for a local breeder or specialist discus seller rather than the lfs as they will be cheaper :good:
angels and discus together looks amazing, if you can get it to work.... angels can carry some kind of disease that doesnt effect them but does effect discus, cant remember what it is off the top of my head but mixing the 2 species can be a risk.... if you do go for it then go for altum angels as they look amazing and much more elegant than scalare angels :good:
cory and emperor tetras will be fine with both species, as long as the tetras arent tiny they should be fine.
i wouldnt add any bigger fish tbh as the discus can grow to the size of a small plate so eventually will fill the tank nicely with a group of them especially if you keep angels too. maybe a pair of german blue rams as these prefer the higher temps that discus need :good:

just to add i kept my discus at 30 degrees in medium/hard tap water with a pH of about 7.8 without any disease or issues what so ever. just acclimatise them very slowly especially if there is a big distance between your pH and the sellers pH. take at least an hour to do each fish and they should be ok.

corys do generally prefer cooler temps of about 24 degrees but it is said that sterbai corys tolerate higher temps better than any other cory. having other corys in a higher temp tank may cause stress and make them quite inactive compared to normal. also the higher temps may reduce their life span. people do keep all sorts of corys in with discus at high temps and they will say they are fine but they do prefer cooler water ;)

ive just finished my stocking plans for the tank you saw in my garage after going round in circle and down different routes and have come up with -

2 x asian sun catfish
1 x L190 pleco
1 x L114 pleco
3 x spotted climbing perch
1 x oscar
1 x siamese algae eater
1 x black ghost knife fish
1 x rotkeil severum

its a mix of fish from all over the world but this tank was never meant to be a biotope or species tank of any kind just a 'me' tank. they should all live together quite peacefully (i hope) and require similar water parameters and temp etc. just dont forget that discus, angels and other bigger species do and will get bigger than what you picture in your head. maybe try and personally go to look at some fully grown fish that you decide to go for to show their potential sizes. after seeing the oscar i have reserved i decided that i didnt want any other big cichlids in the tank as he is huge..... i was going to add a frontosa and a red spotted severum too but honestly think the tank isnt big enough and thats 6.5/2/2 :angry:
 
You could get a pretty cool mbuna setup with that size of tank. If you go for all males and overstock it slightly you would see alot of action and have some nice colourful fish. Just get good filtration for it though to look after the over stocking.

Thats what I reckon anyway.
 
I thinking about going to do down the Malawi Mbuna route with a couple of Cuckoo Catfish. This will give me lots of colour and be a little less maintenance than a Discus tank.

BUT............

I love all my current fish and don't want to get rid of them, although I've been told that I'm only having one tank!

What large, colourful fish could I mix with Dwarf Cichlids, Corys etc? I could add some Angels etc, maybe some Firemouths?

Cheers,

Ryan
 
i think i would rather have a good group of altum or natural colouration scalare angels than discus to be honest. they look stunning if you can find some :good:
 

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