3 Gallon Wall Mounted Aquariu,

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I came across a free, new 3 gallon wall-mounted aquarium. Now I have a 12 gallon tank with my recovering betta, but I was wondering if a 3 gallon would be good for him when he recovers. The 12 gallon, all the plants are dying, and the light is busted "its an eclipse so its impossible to get a replcement lid), and he never used the whole tank much. But the wall mounted tank is 3 inches deep. THink he'd be happy in there?
 
The three gallon is three inches wide? How long is it? Sounds like an unusual shaped tank. Are you sure it's 3 inches wide AND 3 gallons?
 
3 inches in any direction is no way enough. They need more stinulation than just swimming backwards and forwards.

3 gallons is the bare minimum, IMO, for keeping bettas. It's not just about space but also about water quality. Those bettas of mine that have 3 gallon sections (2/11) are actually in much larger tanks so the water quality is much easier to stabilise.

These wall mounted tanks tend to be hell to maintain and can't give the fish the right dimensions. For a betta you need lots of plants and a cave and I don't see you fitting all that in when one of your dimensions is only 3 inches.
 
Okay. I still don't understand how a tank can be 3 gallons if it's 3" deep. Can you provide the exact dimensions so the water volume can be calculated?

Either way, as said by Assaye, three gallons can be a challenge. One of my betta is in a 3-gallon and I believe the only reason she's doing okay is because she's female and moves around like a little torpedo. Before having her in there, I had a double-tailed male and he had a very difficult time turning around and manuevering. He was moved up to a 5-gallon and is doing better.
 
Okay. I still don't understand how a tank can be 3 gallons if it's 3" deep. Can you provide the exact dimensions so the water volume can be calculated?

Either way, as said by Assaye, three gallons can be a challenge. One of my betta is in a 3-gallon and I believe the only reason she's doing okay is because she's female and moves around like a little torpedo. Before having her in there, I had a double-tailed male and he had a very difficult time turning around and manuevering. He was moved up to a 5-gallon and is doing better.

I actually used a converter to see how many gallons it holds. That tank is 16wx15hx3d, the 10 is 37wx15hx4.5d. I also have an opportunity to use a wall mounted 10 gallon which is 4 inches deep, but they are heavy as anything, and I bet they are a pain. I wouldn't mind leaving my Eclipse 12 alone, but the ballast where the bulb is is "breaking" the casing and seems hazardous.
 
So hang on.. you want to take a betta out of a 12 gallon tank which is a fantastic size for it, and put it into something vastly too small?

I'm serious, explain the logic to me because I don't get it.

The main reason your plants are dying is because your light is broken. In which case get a new light and plenty of new plants.

Or if not, get a LOT of silk ones instead. They can't die, and are safe for betta . Problem solved.


Moving a betta from 12 gallons to a 3 gallon anything as a permanent home is utter insanity, and something 3 inches deep is even worse.

Those wall mounted tanks are just another overpriced gimmick. They're really poor "tanks" to keep anything but shrimp in - in fact, do just that, a well planted shrimp tamk with lots of mosses would look great and be far more manageable and humane than keeping a fish in it.

If he's hiding in corners and so on, not using much of the tank, you most likely don't have it planted enough, or enough hiding and resting places for him. Do you have a picture of the tank? And also the broken lid? We could help you find a way to fix it.

If the ballast does not come into contact with the water in any way, you could try using two part epoxy or even milliput to bind it back together ( leave the lid up for this to set or cure and put a mesh cover or piece of perspex as a lid to stop the fish jumping out )
 
Okay. I still don't understand how a tank can be 3 gallons if it's 3" deep. Can you provide the exact dimensions so the water volume can be calculated?

Either way, as said by Assaye, three gallons can be a challenge. One of my betta is in a 3-gallon and I believe the only reason she's doing okay is because she's female and moves around like a little torpedo. Before having her in there, I had a double-tailed male and he had a very difficult time turning around and manuevering. He was moved up to a 5-gallon and is doing better.

I actually used a converter to see how many gallons it holds. That tank is 16wx15hx3d, the 10 is 37wx15hx4.5d. I also have an opportunity to use a wall mounted 10 gallon which is 4 inches deep, but they are heavy as anything, and I bet they are a pain. I wouldn't mind leaving my Eclipse 12 alone, but the ballast where the bulb is is "breaking" the casing and seems hazardous.
Seriously. . .you would consider putting a fish in THAT? Are you even sure the fish can turn around in such a cramped 3" deep tank??? Honeythorn asked for a picture of your Eclipse tank. . .I'd love to see a picture of the wall mounted one! Really, the betta would be better off in a 2-gallon fish bowl b/c at least it can turn around and there would be room for a 7.5 watt heater.

Oh, and have you checked eBay? I've seen some Eclipse replacement parts there in the past. Haven't checked lately. Maybe check both UK and US and see if you can find something.
 
Really, the betta would be better off in a 2-gallon fish bowl b/c at least it can turn around and there would be room for a 7.5 watt heater.

NO. It would be better in the 12 gallon tank where it can actually SWIM ( once recovered from whatever it is it's recovering from ) . Which can fit all manner of filters and most commercially available heaters for that tank size.

A slightly broken light fitting that can most likely be repaired or worked around is a stupendously poor reason to move a fish into a tiny tank/container of any sort , with no space and a higher risk of things going wrong with water quality.
 
Really, the betta would be better off in a 2-gallon fish bowl b/c at least it can turn around and there would be room for a 7.5 watt heater.

NO. It would be better in the 12 gallon tank where it can actually SWIM ( once recovered from whatever it is it's recovering from ) . Which can fit all manner of filters and most commercially available heaters for that tank size.
Obviously. That's common sense. I was saying if the OP absolutely will not figure out a way for the betta to remain in the 12-gallon, then it would be better to put it in a bowl than an 3" deep "tank." There is MORE chance the fish can manuvuer in that shape than a 3" deep!
 
I recently moved one of my boys from his 6 gallon down to a 4 gallon (temporarily) and he is having a major sulk. Moving from a 12 gallon to a tiny 3 gallon (of any dimensions) would be pretty sad. If they are used to the space they really won't appreciate being so substantially downgraded.

Just a recent experience of mine.
 
So hang on.. you want to take a betta out of a 12 gallon tank which is a fantastic size for it, and put it into something vastly too small?

I'm serious, explain the logic to me because I don't get it.

The main reason your plants are dying is because your light is broken. In which case get a new light and plenty of new plants.

Or if not, get a LOT of silk ones instead. They can't die, and are safe for betta . Problem solved.


Moving a betta from 12 gallons to a 3 gallon anything as a permanent home is utter insanity, and something 3 inches deep is even worse.

Those wall mounted tanks are just another overpriced gimmick. They're really poor "tanks" to keep anything but shrimp in - in fact, do just that, a well planted shrimp tamk with lots of mosses would look great and be far more manageable and humane than keeping a fish in it.

If he's hiding in corners and so on, not using much of the tank, you most likely don't have it planted enough, or enough hiding and resting places for him. Do you have a picture of the tank? And also the broken lid? We could help you find a way to fix it.

If the ballast does not come into contact with the water in any way, you could try using two part epoxy or even milliput to bind it back together ( leave the lid up for this to set or cure and put a mesh cover or piece of perspex as a lid to stop the fish jumping out )


Honeythorn....

Please RELAX. I only THOUGHT of the idea, hence why I posted about it asking, instead of postinf "well, I just moved my betta into a 3 gallon wall mounted tank...". After thinking and reading and seeing that tiny wall-mounted tank I looked up replacements parts for the 12 Eclipse. I do happen to agree that those tanks are gimmicks, and I don't trust them on the wall. I guess at the time, the thought of a broken tank being replaced with a free new expensive tank was getting the best of me. BUT, I thought against it. The Eclipse lids are too expensive, so with a little work, it wasnt the light that was broken, but the switch to turn it on and off. I finally managed to get it back on, and just will plug and unplug the outlet to make it go on and off.

I will show you pictures of his old set up, and I just re-did the tank with driftwood and lots of plants for him. He seems to be perkier and is going in different areas, and even checked out some of the new setup. He is still not himself though, as he is just kind of hovering by the top right corner of the tank.

But, as requested, here are the pics.

THe first picture is the old setup , but after 3 months or so, the tall plants on the left, middle AND right died...so it was kinda "eh" ish. But he swam around alot. Unfortunately, getting prepped to move, I didnt vacuum or do a water change in about 2-3 weeks...thats what must have caused the fin rot. My camera doesn't get pictures good of him, but I will try when hes out in the open tonight.

The second picture is the new setup I just re-did last night. He was exploring it some, but like I said, he just kinda hangs at the top. Good news is, he ate twice yesterday, and once this monring, but just one pellet. SO that's good. he has only one strand of long fin left, but the "rot" has seemed to stop.

THe 3rd picture is of my betta Mason before the fin rot...

Mason before the fin rot
 

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Good to know he's still in the 12 gal :good:

With regards to the light, you could plug in a timer so you don't have to keep unplugging it from the wall.
 
Good to know he's still in the 12 gal :good:

With regards to the light, you could plug in a timer so you don't have to keep unplugging it from the wall.

I was thinking that! or a switch. DO you think I need a tall plant on the right of the tank?
 

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